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16 minutes ago, John Wright said:

I agree that genomics would prove a link, or not, but I don’t think it would inform the decision to lock down. 

All it might do, in the circumstances that it’s 2 or 3 transmissions along from the index SPCo case is allow the daft suggestion that its part of the cluster and thus NOT community transmission. That then allows no lockdown and no action or other measures to be justified.

They're non explained cases. They should be treated as community transmissions until proved otherwise. That doesn’t mean automatic lock down. Certainly not for 3 weeks.

This is the New Zealand approach

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22 minutes ago, CowMan said:

It will be interesting to see if all these hospitality company’s apparent sense of social responsibility changes when they realize that they’ll get sod all from government for their efforts in closing? Although I imagine the brewery feels it’s on firm ground to bully them into paying up for following ‘voluntary’ advice to close. 

The realisation that the government would not be giving any assistance played no part in our business decision. All you can hope for is that suppliers understand the situation. From our perspective, they have but that will only last to a point. Everybody wants paying

 

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10 minutes ago, Peter Layman said:

The realisation that the government would not be giving any assistance played no part in our business decision. All you can hope for is that suppliers understand the situation. From our perspective, they have but that will only last to a point. Everybody wants paying

 

That’s a strange reply really. As what I seemed to hear was a millionaire paid £80k a year by the taxpayer tell many people on £8.50 an hour that they won’t get paid this weekend if the companies they work for decide to voluntarily not need their services following an government announcement to stay at home that has no validity in law. 

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50 minutes ago, John Wright said:

I agree that genomics would prove a link, or not, but I don’t think it would inform the decision to lock down. 

All it might do, in the circumstances that it’s 2 or 3 transmissions along from the index SPCo case is allow the daft suggestion that its part of the cluster and thus NOT community transmission. That then allows no lockdown and no action or other measures to be justified.

They're non explained cases. They should be treated as community transmissions until proved otherwise. That doesn’t mean automatic lock down. Certainly not for 3 weeks.

The circumstances around that link will inform whether there is a lockdown.

By the IOMG's own definition, we worry when there are cases with unexplained links. If genomics can explain those links, the situation may not be as bad as first thought. Unexplained links were the criteria for going into and coming out of lockdown last time.

If it can't explain the links, or suggests a chain of multiple transmission, we know we need to make more significant changes to our current approach.

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