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Leaving the decision to pubs/clubs to stay open until 00.01 Wednesday morning under the known circumstances is madness.

H&B clearly did the responsible thing, but the temptation to stay open to let punters mix, right up to the deadline shouldn't have been left in the hands of private operators, given the part such premises can play in spreading. They should have been told to close with effect the lockdown announcement.

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Re Howard's closing remarks: few would deny the lockdown was the right thing to do. The disappointment was how and when.

And well done those pubs etc that did close on the weekend, such as Quids, Thirsty Pigeon and many others. A difficult decision to make. I do wonder where all the rowdy pissheads had been who came meandering and shouting their gobs off as they staggered up our road in the not so early hours of the morning.

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2 hours ago, Manx Yeller said:

@CowMan

I too am a member of that cult. If you aren't, I have a question for you. Why wouldn't you want to use Dr Glover to provide genomics in 24/36 hours that would potentially show where the paths are? Even if it just showed that everything that the track and trace team had worked out was correct, you aren't losing anything. If it was able to link an unexplained case, you gain something. Either way, you won't be worse off. So why not use her?

@CowMan I'm still interested in your answer to this as I'm always keen to see things from other view points.. 

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3 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

You look in the thread discussing the bad news, and are surprised when you find bad news and people discussing the bad parts of the bad news.

Of course it isn't going to be sunshine and lollipops. There are other threads for good news.

To be honest posters like you seem to AMPLIFY bad news ceaselessly. You say already “this is likely to be more than 3 weeks” and that’s on DAY ONE. What drives such an unrelenting NEGATIVE opinion to try to depress other forum members with after just one day?  What’s your secret? What secret doom-locker do you have access to that others can’t access? It’s just thoroughly depressing views based on no actual information which suggests, as yet, that what you said might actually be the case? 

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10 minutes ago, CowMan said:

I just found Facebook depressing and so came on here for a change but honestly it’s worse. You’d feel suicidal if you were a normal person reading all constant depressing crying and wailing on here from most posters. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Just now, Barlow said:

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Re Howard's closing remarks, few would deny the lockdown was the right thing to do. The disappointment was how and when.

Yes lockdown right, but shouldn’t have come to this.

Sick to death with HRH The Chief Minister with his pleading and hand wringing. Every news conference becoming a bullshit bingo with the same phrases constantly trotted out ad nauseum. 

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3 minutes ago, CowMan said:

To be honest posters like you seem to AMPLIFY bad news ceaselessly. You say already “this is likely to be more than 3 weeks” and that’s on DAY ONE. What drives such an unrelenting NEGATIVE opinion to try to depress other forum members with after just one day?  What’s your secret? What secret doom-locker do you have access to that others can’t access? It’s just thoroughly depressing views based on no actual information which suggests, as yet, that what you said might actually be the case? 

'ere, you leave AC alone. He is only reading the writing on the wall.

 

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Just now, CowMan said:

To be honest posters like you seem to AMPLIFY bad news ceaselessly. You say already “this is likely to be more than 3 weeks” and that’s on DAY ONE. What drives such an unrelenting NEGATIVE opinion to try to depress other forum members with after just one day?  What’s your secret? What secret doom-locker do you have access to that others can’t access? It’s just thoroughly depressing views based on no actual information which suggests, as yet, that what you said might actually be the case? 

Oh so we are EMPHASISING with capitals now? OKAY.

So, let us BASE our VIEWS on previous EVIDENCE. Virus go brrr. People go cough. Lockdown go long.

Last time, the criteria for leaving lockdown was 21 days with no new community cases. We've had community cases. Likely a good number to come over the coming week too. Unless strategy has changed, that's where we are at.

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18 minutes ago, McCallig said:

All good and busy I expect?  Full of idiots doing their best to catch or spread Covid. 

Cant speak for 1886 as I just walked past but the queens and bridge werent overly busy. 

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Just now, 2112 said:

Yes lockdown right, but shouldn’t have come to this.

Sick to death with HRH The Chief Minister with his pleading and hand wringing. Every news conference becoming a bullshit bingo with the same phrases constantly trotted out ad nauseum. 

Did I hear right DA referred to word bingo immediately before saying how serious the situation was and people shouldn’t make light of it? 

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1 minute ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Virus go brrr. People go cough. Lockdown go long.

That says it all really - if you’re not scaring people then you’re just being childish and insulting. You’re just another depressing unqualified armchair virologist like any other a Facebook Karen. 

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1 minute ago, CowMan said:

That says it all really - if you’re not scaring people then you’re just being childish and insulting. You’re just another depressing unqualified armchair virologist like any other a Facebook Karen. 

You berate me for being childish and insulting, then resort to calling people Karens.

Pick a narrative.

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32 minutes ago, Lewis said:

The stakes are so high yet HQ et al not only fail to use any initiative until its too late but fail to even take the most basic, common sense actions and then make sure they are followed up.

Pathetic platitudes like:

  • lessons will be learned (Oh God find a new one)
  • we don't want a witch hunt
  • it was a communications problem
  • we  need to look forwards
  • we use all the information available

are no excuse for this. It's not even incompetence as that implies a lack of adequate training or ability. This is such basic stuff it's negligence. 

The only real lesson here is that you don't need to be an expert to avoid most of this mess. It just needs hard work, attention to detail and accountatbility (shock, horror) but most importantly, energetic leadership focussed on success rather than blame avoidance. Politicians and civil servants could not survive this anywhere else.

Spot on.     I work for govt (no furlough for me, working from home) in a technical IT role related to health.     In my experience, there is a lack of supervision or  even willingness to supervise whether people are actually doing what they're being paid to do.   Clearly there was rubbish communication and a complete lack of oversight.    What an absolute clusterfuck (yes, pun intended).   

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