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21 minutes ago, daisy said:

Genuine waste = yes.  But to waste because they 'couldn't find volunteers' is irresponsible.

They haven't said what the exact causes for the waste is, but there are bound to be a variety of reasons for vaccine getting wasted.

As far as finding volunteers, it surely depends on the exact circumstances at the time. If someone has the last appointment of the day and doesn't show up, it would be very difficult for the vaccinators to fill that slot. The fact remains that the wastage rate is minimal and we should really be viewing that as evidence of how efficient the process is (appointment booking aside!!)

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7 minutes ago, Banker said:

Everyone trying to book says it’s a nightmare, my brother had to call for our dad as she couldn’t take the stress of holding on & getting cut off continuously.

You have a very modern family. 

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3 minutes ago, Newbie said:

They haven't said what the exact causes for the waste is, but there are bound to be a variety of reasons for vaccine getting wasted.

As far as finding volunteers, it surely depends on the exact circumstances at the time. If someone has the last appointment of the day and doesn't show up, it would be very difficult for the vaccinators to fill that slot. The fact remains that the wastage rate is minimal and we should really be viewing that as evidence of how efficient the process is (appointment booking aside!!)

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37 minutes ago, Apple said:

Thanks for posting. I know one or two but haven't some have switched roles recently. 

I wonder if Theresa Cope is on it now ?

 

There was also a Parliamentary Committee review of the arrangements

too https://www.tynwald.org.im/business/opqp/sittings/20182021/2020-PP-0118.pdf

Page 6 sets out the various groups. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

1 wasted is too much. The butterfly effect of wasting vaccines may not affect us so much...but will affect some poor sod in another country later this year/next year.

why. we have lots of it in the fridge and its not holding up the programme

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Just now, Happier diner said:

why. we have lots of it in the fridge and its not holding up the programme

Seriously? Because it means any wasted have to be redone on the production line - and there are 6.5 billion people to go.

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We also awaiting the publication of the advice from the COVID advisory committee which Ashie is supposed to publish this month after successfully delaying it for 2 months for some reason 

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6 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

1 wasted is too much. The butterfly effect of wasting vaccines may not affect us so much...but will affect some poor sod in another country later this year/next year.

Nothing is perfect, you might have a dodgy needle, a slip of the hand, heck you have to bin a vial if it isn't the right sort of cloudy.

You can't use the dregs of the vial with the dregs of another either, you have to bin that too, even if it's just under the dose and you could top it up.

The other way around, it means we're getting 99.85% of it right.

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3 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Seriously? Because it means any wasted have to be redone on the production line - and there are 6.5 billion people to go.

I don't condone wastage and I agree with your point. But some is inevitable and it seems the amount is negligible. Did you listen to the briefing. There is going to be too much vaccine soon and the hold up will be administering it not availability. 

I was just saying its old news already

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1 minute ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Nothing is perfect, you might have a dodgy needle, a slip of the hand, heck you have to bin a vial if it isn't the right sort of cloudy.

You can't use the dregs of the vial with the dregs of another either, you have to bin that too, even if it's just under the dose and you could top it up.

The other way around, it means we're getting 99.85% of it right.

Agree there are some things out of our control.

But simply making sure enough people are lined up on the day is not.

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1 minute ago, Happier diner said:

I don't condone wastage and I agree with your point. But some is inevitable and it seems the amount is negligible. Did you listen to the briefing. There is going to be too much vaccine soon and the hold up will be administering it not availability. 

I was just saying its old news already

You need to perhaps re-read the original post you commented on. It referred to the impact also on RoW, not just here.

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