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47 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said:

''In what world are over 60s not done by the end of May? ''

 

The answer Terry is 'In any world except yours''. People need TWO doses of Pfizer or Oxford. They are administered now 10 weeks apart here. In no way can that be done by the end of May for the over 60s when the letters are actually only going out in the week ending 26 March!

Also, some weeks are needed for these two vaccines to be at their maximum effectiveness AFTER the vaccinations (which as everyone knows is around 95% at the very best)

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14 minutes ago, Gladys said:

 

But you're absolutely right, the opportunity missed to come up with contingency plans while covid-free is lamentable, reprehensible and, now, damaging. 

And sadly predictable

 

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57 minutes ago, CowMan said:

I haven’t said Guernsey is miles ahead on anything as I simply don’t know how other islands are doing. We are sending out the letters to the over 60s next week and the letters only go out in batches. I really can’t see that they'll be done by the end of May when it’s taken us 2 months to get to this stage with full vaccinations. The UK really seems to have got it’s act together which makes the IOM opening the borders argument for September nonsense. Most of the over 50s in the UK will be done well before then so the risks will probably start to drop around July if we start ramping up vaccinations here too. 

Jesus. And you reckon we're pant wetting.

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2 hours ago, Boris Johnson said:

When I went to Chester St for mine it struck me that I was about the only person who had filled out the consent form prior to getting there.

I was in and out in moments, there was a lot of people sat down filling forms out and a lot of empty booths waiting for them to fill their forms. 

Could be more efficient if everyone got a bit more organised before they turn up?

I too did my form before going.  Also took identification as requested but that wasn’t asked for.

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16 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

There is two separate forms, one for the Astra Zeneca and one for the Pfizer. When they send out the letters they don’t know which one you’ll be booked in, it would be a complete waste to send both forms (4 sheets of paper, 2 for each vaccine) when only 1 set would be used.

When I had my first at Chester Street I had taken the precaution of printing off and filling in both forms. A rather officious lady with a clip board told me I had to fill in one of hers because mine were no good! ( She didn't even look at them.)

Make of it what you will.

It was easier to just fill it in than argue, so, that might explain why there were lots of form fillers?

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20 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

There is two separate forms, one for the Astra Zeneca and one for the Pfizer. When they send out the letters they don’t know which one you’ll be booked in, it would be a complete waste to send both forms (4 sheets of paper, 2 for each vaccine) when only 1 set would be used.

Thanks, but couldn't a generic consent form be devised to cover both?

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21 minutes ago, Cassie2 said:

The answer Terry is 'In any world except yours''. People need TWO doses of Pfizer or Oxford. They are administered now 10 weeks apart here. In no way can that be done by the end of May for the over 60s when the letters are actually only going out in the week ending 26 March!

Also, some weeks are needed for these two vaccines to be at their maximum effectiveness AFTER the vaccinations (which as everyone knows is around 95% at the very best)

Well it’s 80% efficacy after one dose which has been shown by results and also in stopping spread of virus which is why cases , deaths & hospitalization have plummeted in UK since January 

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Just now, piebaps said:

Meanwhile in Europe https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56382608

Looks like we're not the only ones with problems

It's going to happen elsewhere too. The understandable urge to get things open is massive and sadly it is only going to go one way. The vaccines will get us out of it but it's going to need a lot more of it and time. 

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1 minute ago, Banker said:

Well it’s 80% efficacy after one dose which has been shown by results and also in stopping spread of virus which is why cases , deaths & hospitalization have plummeted in UK since January 

The lockdown has done that.

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1 hour ago, thommo2010 said:

The people turning on each other is crazy.

I'm seeing people complain that cyclists rode by them without a mask.

That someone dared go against the one way system in a co op

That someone stood 1.95 metres away in a queue instead of 2 metres.

This really has brought out the worst in people

Is it acceptable and perfectly safe for a cyclist to go panting? 

Is it perfectly safe to go against the organised systems in shops?

Did someone really complaint about 1.95m rather than 2.0m?

This really has brought out the worst in people.

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42 minutes ago, manxst said:

It’s not really though, is it? You can leave your house, exercise, shop, work (unless it’s at the amenity sites), go where you want, not have to wear a mask if you don’t want...Most people seem to be doing nothing different to normal, other than there being a lack of socialising and having to do distancing. 

I must admit that being retired I'm finding winter in the Isle of Man, and lockdown in winter in the Isle of Man, aren't a whole lot different. 

In normal times I'd be halfway around a world cruise now. Really regretting putting all the ports of call in my calendar.

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