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5 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

I've previously posted an article explaining why so many people who wonder this same thing are mostly wrong, its not in my bookmarks but if I can be arsed I might try and find it again. I'm not saying you, but an awful lot of the people who push the 'of or with' thing are the hoaxer end of the spectrum. Many of them will happily go on about the flu, but seem to miss why they look so stupid saying the flu kills x amount of people but covid deaths are manipulated because they are dying 'with' not 'of'.

Might not have explained that very well, but TLDR the with/of argument is broadly stupid.

I'm not saying it is to hoax levels.  I'm also not saying it's any kind of sole argument.

However, there has to be some acknowledgement as to the damage being caused by the current stance.   

Look at the Isle of Man.  How much of an increase in suicide have we seen in the last 18 months? Now, I'm not saying some of those people wouldn't eventually kill themselves but you probably see the point.

Also, look at elective surgery and the knock on effect to people's lives.    A relative of mine badly needs surgery.  Can't get it.  Can't even pay your way out of it by going private.  Meanwhile, someone who is nearly 70 is suffering badly and will do so for a couple of years at least.  A couple of years damage and pain is a lot when you've probably got about 15 years left.  

Then bring into the equation the implications to mental health of many people.  Also looking at under 16s.

As a society we seemed to have basically stopped functioning.  All to "deal" with Covid.

I'm not convinced.   I can see there coming a point that when vaccinations are in hand there will be more excuses.   It won't end well.

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25 minutes ago, Banker said:

The chances of catching anything by passing someone outside is minuscule unless they cough directly into your face, same if a cyclist going by. The people catching it are obviously either in a household who has it, meeting up illegally with someone or stopping to chat closely for 10 minutes or longer whilst outside without masks 

I'm not doubting you as such, but we simply don't know, or rather our government certainly does not know. 

Very little is obvious. Obviously. Not yet anyway.

One year later and all those tests and data..... and yet not an awful lot more is known about the spreading characteristics of oor 'rona.

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I've sunk all my pension pot into brand's and pitchforks. So as to be in on the ground floor when they reopen the  borders and we have to repel the Covid infected masses. Our motto let no man/women in a mob be short of life's essentials, free box of matches with every five brands bought. All out pitchforks are made from yew sourced from sustainable forests. And 2% of purchase goes' to offset our carbon footprint

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1 hour ago, Black Mirror said:

Here in this island, I see people in the open countryside with those silly napkins on their faces, and have so much pity for them.

Walking in the countryside I’ve been wearing a snood in the winter months and I’m completely converted. It keeps my face warm and after a long walk my nose doesn’t itch like it used to, a hidden bonus for the anti social type is people are less inclined to stop and talk utter nonsense. So if you see me with a napkin on my face please don’t pity me, I’m rather enjoying it. 

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I live on my own and been struggling again this lock down and took advantage of the 'bubble' option on Saturday . TBH is so open to abuse which is sad as it made such a difference to me just that one night with friends . We all interpreted as it should be and the taxi I went home in also helped the situation . I am not hopeful though of this idea lasting as clearly its already being abused even by the guy below me in his flat who had a bunch of guys around last night till early hours . I will pull him when I see him but tbh I will struggle with any confrontation that will likely happen. Like everything in these times theres always those that will push boundaries or just ignore common sense .   

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53 minutes ago, Utah 01 said:

the past 12 months of total brainwashing

Nobody serious believes that. Only half-baked conspiracy nutters.

31 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

They are telling statistics but data that mustn't be shared.

Why is that?

Some kind of conspiracy?

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Doesn't this business of 40+ bus drivers self-isolating, plus no statement from BV or DoI, suggest another failure of the Co-Vid protocols within another Government transport undertaking?

Driving a bus, behind a perspex screen, is quite a solitary job, so how have so many suddenly tested positive, probably picking it up from a single index case? And then , how have so many then been categorised as 'close contacts'.

How, where and why have they been mixing? What are the protocols, and have they been observed?   

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Regarding the bubble thing. Howard telling people it is not a free for all, is akin to Chris Kinley on Radio TT telling the riders not to swear because they are on live radio.

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37 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

Why is that?

 

That was answered many times in the past 12 months - reveal the unspun, off-message, select-to-suport-the-message data and the terror campaign collapses.

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2 minutes ago, Nellie said:

Doesn't this business of 40+ bus drivers self-isolating, plus no statement from BV or DoI, suggest another failure of the Co-Vid protocols within another Government transport undertaking?

Driving a bus, behind a perspex screen, is quite a solitary job, so how have so many suddenly tested positive, probably picking it up from a single index case? And then , how have so many then been categorised as 'close contacts'.

How, where and why have they been mixing? What are the protocols, and have they been observed?   

Seven are positive cases according to the latest news, and a further 42 are having to isolate. Sounds pretty likely that there is either a lack of safety protocol, or else the protocol hasn’t been adhered to in the correct manner? 
All a simple misunderstanding though by all concerned, nothing to see here. Lessons learnt and all that. 

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7 minutes ago, pongo said:

Nobody serious believes that. Only half-baked conspiracy nutters.

Some kind of conspiracy?

Who knows, that's why I'm asking.

It's fairly easy simplistic data to share one would have thought.

A bit like sharing how many admitted to Nobles have been vaccinated & age bands. How many were admitted due to Covid (symptomatic) as opposed to procedure which detected Covid as part of the pre-screening (asymptomatic).

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