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14 minutes ago, Banker said:

UK deaths have actually fallen below 5 year average for all deaths for first time since September 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-period-of-excess-death-from-second-wave-has-come-to-an-end-ons-figures-12254247

Yes my friend, all true.

We are through the worst of it. Only a ‘Regaby variant’ or political aspiration can prevent CoMin from taking positive steps now.

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1 hour ago, Flyingfemme said:

If everyone hides under the stairs until covid is eliminated we will all die of starvation or boredom. 

 

 

 

Judging by the two hour wait on my 'Ultimate Burger' from Neo's on Saturday, it won't be the former ;0)

Those grease riddled little fries they do on the side are the schizzle btw. 

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Overwhelming evidence that an efficient vaccination rollout programme coupled with tight restrictions can beat this thing.

The EU have made a monumental hash of it all in terms of vaccine procurement & delivery.

Brexit saved lives. Now who thought that would have been a headline!

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3 hours ago, Nom de plume said:

I’m unsure of the exact figures but if memory serves me well...

You're trying to make a serious point. I genuinely want to hear it, but if you're unsure and poking about in a faded memory, it isn't going to help your case.

 

3 hours ago, wrighty said:

I think it’s the intersection - i.e. only a few hundred out of 125000 were both under 60 and without pre-existing health conditions. Or something like that.

ditto

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I am sure that this has been commented on before but I am amazed by the amount of people wearing masks outdoors, on their own, in a gale. Quite bizarre, but hey ho, live and let live, just a little strange, and par for the course in a strange year.

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14 minutes ago, Out of the blue said:

I am sure that this has been commented on before but I am amazed by the amount of people wearing masks outdoors, on their own, in a gale. Quite bizarre, but hey ho, live and let live, just a little strange, and par for the course in a strange year.

Its the people in cars by themselves I cant get my head round

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3 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

Its the people in cars by themselves I cant get my head round

Wearing a mask in wind is better than not, they keep you warm. Wearing one in a car saves struggling to find one when you get out and realise its in your other coat pocket etc. 

Not everyone wearing a mask is a covid sheep and every maskless person isn't a covidiot either.

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2 hours ago, Nom de plume said:

The narrative of fear can start to shift quickly now & we can get back on with living.

I tend to agree about the narrative but I think we all realise things will not be the same.

The drive now for data to underpin both freedoms and restrictions will leap ahead - the signs are there already with vaccine certificates and passports etc. How far this goes will depend on national / global take up, but no doubt some will be excluded for different reasons. I hope that does not happen on the island.

Pandemics don't suddenly stop. They apparently fizzle out and then there are sporadic eruptions and clusters which can then be dealt with accordingly. Merging vaccinations with boosters for other related health vaccines may become the norm or even oral administration.

The positive impacts maybe have yet to be fully appreciated and ascertained but the impact on relationships and good mental health will be at the forefront of those surely. The diminution of unnatural and exacerbated fear and anxiety from children and older people would be an ideal start, with suitable emphasis on the quality of life for both and the wider public   being recognised more widely.

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48 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

Judging by the two hour wait on my 'Ultimate Burger' from Neo's on Saturday, it won't be the former ;0)

Those grease riddled little fries they do on the side are the schizzle btw. 

Well at least when you die of Covid, we can all blame it on the unhealthy food you eat rather than the actual disease.

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I think with the masks - some of it is its just easier to have the mask on in case you meet someone  on a narrow bit.  Also it's quite warm at the moment. 

In the cars, they tell you not to fiddle with the masks too much, so if I'm picking somethign up for shielding in laws I might leave the mask on in the car and then still have it on when I ring the door bell. 

or its just virtue signalling. 

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19 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

Its the people in cars by themselves I cant get my head round

One guy said taking his mask off always pulled his hearing aids out so it was easier to leave his mask on until for the whole time he was out. 
 

Seems reasonable 

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2 hours ago, monasqueen said:

And "Herd immunity is only relevant if we have a transmission-blocking vaccine." 

Not quite true though because antibodies are created naturally as well. See the latest data set on antibody prevalence produced by ONS Some younger members of the population (16 - 24) manage natural immunity at around 1 in 3.

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32 minutes ago, Out of the blue said:

I am sure that this has been commented on before but I am amazed by the amount of people wearing masks outdoors, on their own, in a gale. Quite bizarre, but hey ho, live and let live, just a little strange, and par for the course in a strange year.

You missed "in their car".

There is a perfect logic to all this. Bear in mind one should only be outside of their home - their safe place - for essentail reasons only.

So, once you leave you home, the safe place, and don your mask, you are going into a potentially contaminated place. And so everything you touch is potentially contaminated. Don't touch your face. Don't touch your mask. 

Come home - wash your hands. Take off and isolate your your mask. Wash your hands.

 

Smug people who have a go at people who are doing the right thing are, smug people. And make their own contribution to the situation we find ourselves in.

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