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40 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

Dropping like a stone.

June 1st looking more like a realistic border reopening date.

If the borders don't open in June they never will. Shutting the borders was all about protecting the health service, and the whole 60 million population are getting around 60 deaths with covid per day. That equates to just over 2 per month on the IOM.

No excuse to not relax the borders

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10 minutes ago, bonatti said:

Annual figures will be high this last year and probably next, followed, maybe, by a couple of years below average. 

I wonder if the average over a rolling 5 year period will be much different to previous 5 year periods?

 

I'd expect there will be a difference. Of course, the longer the period of comparison, the smaller that would become, eventually falling to zero.

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6 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

The irony of the variant story is that it's the UK (Kent) version that's causing all the issues on the continent right now.

The EU must absolutely hate us. 'Stealing' all the vaccines and now reopening!

Kent.... the first place trucks pass through after rolling off the ferry. If the EU bothered to do genomic testing then we'd probably find that it originated somewhere in eastern Europe. 

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12 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

The irony of the variant story is that it's the UK (Kent) version that's causing all the issues on the continent right now.

The EU must absolutely hate us. 'Stealing' all the vaccines and now reopening!

An awful lot of Europe hasn't been in lockdown over winter either- it was only a week or so ago that Macron ducked for cover. 

They're about to pay a big price for that liberty and shambolic vaccine rollout.

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1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Fair enough. There is still much in this I can’t agree with. For example I don’t believe the Great Manx Public has been treated with disdain. I think they have been kept well informed, or as well informed as could be.But we shall agree to differ

(By the way I wasn’t accusing you of mentioning physical attributes but there are many on here who do which unfortunately tends to taint any well articulated criticism)

I take it you are viewing a life in comedy with that post

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16 minutes ago, winnie said:

If the borders don't open in June they never will. Shutting the borders was all about protecting the health service, and the whole 60 million population are getting around 60 deaths with covid per day. That equates to just over 2 per month on the IOM.

No excuse to not relax the borders

Agree to 1,000.000%

If they do decide to keep the borders closed whilst the UK is fully reopened on 21st June, they are going to have to come up with some serious data and justification for doing so. Not just 'Manx solutions for Manx problems or Gold Standard' bollocks. They'll need to prove to the Manx public that the measures are commensurate with risk. 

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31 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said:

I wonder what the reasons for [this week's lower than average ONS figures for deaths registered] are. 

Could it be that...

1) Many of the elder folk perished earlier than their time due to Covid?

2) Annual winter influenza deaths are being greatly reduced by the measures in place to control Covid?

Mostly the second as far as I can see.  I pointed out last year to the way that the deaths in care homes in the Spring hadn't been balanced by a corresponding drop over the Summer, so it wasn't caused by people dying a few months earlier than they should have.  Interestingly the deaths this Winter weren't anything like as concentrated in care homes (even though the overall numbers were higher.  Some of this may be because of fewer vulnerable residents due to last year, but I think it's mostly down to homes and the health service in general coping better, particularly with things such as the level of PPE.

In the latest ONS report it's clear that the drop below average (which isn't that great and is only for the last two weeks reported:

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is reflected in a drop below average in deaths involving influenza and pneumonia:

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So that looks likely to be a big part of it.

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3 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said:

My mate has had covid.  I just checked with him.  He said he is still knocking one out with no issues at all.  Small (literally) sample size I'll grant you.

When you say 'small sample size', are you are referring to the number of people in your survey or another potential effect of Covid?

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2 hours ago, Banker said:

Good news from UK that deaths are below 5 year average again 

Provisionally, 10,311 deaths were registered in England and Wales in the week ending 19 March 2021 (Week 11). This was
 
676 fewer than Week 10
 
894 fewer than the five-year average for Week 11

That is great three months hard lockdown has finally cracked it.

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3 minutes ago, Cambon said:

That is great three months hard lockdown has finally cracked it.

Plus the massive vaccinations roll out, Italy has been in either full or partial lockdown for months, schools shut etc but cases still going up , difference slow vaccinations roll out

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5 minutes ago, Banker said:

Plus the massive vaccinations roll out, Italy has been in either full or partial lockdown for months, schools shut etc but cases still going up , difference slow vaccinations roll out

7% of UK adults have been fully vaccinated. Just under 57% of uk adults have been partly vaccinated and most of those are still building up protection. For the past three months, those elderly and vulnerable who were told to shield during lock down one were told to shield again. That shielding order is lifted from midnight tomorrow.

Vaccination will have had a small effect on reducing the figures, but it is three months lockdown that has brought the figures down.

We will only see what effect of vaccinations will have as restrictions ease.

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