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22 minutes ago, asitis said:

It would be ironic, if the first time in living memory financial terms were the stumbling block, and the AG's were concerned re public money. A bad time to become so imo.

Any commercial lawyer, AG's included, may have little or nothing to say on the actual price at the outset (that is really the client's responsibility) but more on the ability of the supplier to vary the price, the product, the terms of the contract or the termination provisions of the contract ( can the supplier cut you off at the dtop of a hat or are you tied in forever and a day?)

The lawyers don't control the purse strings but the client will be very quick yo throw them under a bus if they don't raise these points and the client gets burned.

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11 hours ago, Gladys said:

As I have said, no one denies the existence of a piece of paper, but whether it was in fact what it was purported to be will never be established because it no longer exists. 

So, we don't know if it was all it was said to be, or if DA was the victim of a fabrication or if someone else was. 

The point is, its use was a trigger point in the deterioration of relations. I am not sure DA was attacked over DrGlover's status, but his ire should have been directed at HR who had apparently  misinformed him.

In the grown up world, it was foolish and unforgiveable. 

That's correct and a good point. The whole lettergate was a misjudgement regardless of its intention.

If you were a generous sort, you might say Ashford read it to reassure the nation that we had staff adequately trained and skilled to carry out the testing.

But others might conclude that it was a childish attempt to discredit. 

The likelihood is, that there was letter. I cant imagine an outright lie. We may never know, but as we agree, that's not the point is it?

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10 hours ago, Andy Onchan said:

They are actually on record as saying exactly that. Well, at least Dr Ewart said that on behalf of the government.

Shame on you. That was a totally different context and  circumstance. Below the belt and factually incorrect. 

You discredit yourself sir.

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1 minute ago, the stinking enigma said:

Those 2 posts are all you take out of recent events? The shame is on you sir, 

I have never sought to discredit anyone though. I have my view on the value of genomic sequencing. I have made that clear on many occasions. I have no view on the fall out between government and Dr Glover as I just don't know enough about it. I listen with interest and disappointment. 

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54 minutes ago, Banker said:

Changing the subject from Glover gate, looks like UK will introduce traffic light system for foreign travel, we should use similar for uk travel as Channel Islands use.

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/analysis-says-12-countries-could-be-open-to-uk-holidaymakers-from-may-17

I don't think the Isle of Man is for you. Seriously.

Maybe now is the time for you to up and go. If you don't fancy UK, you could try CI.

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12 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

The whole transcript revolves around “she said”/ “they said” and until concrete evidence has been produced to prove one way or the other I would be very wary of jumping to conclusions 

 

I might be watching too many re-runs of "The Thick of It" (curtsey of the entirely avoidable lockdowns if IOMG was following the science and Dr Glover, it seems), but my understanding is that if Dr Glover has deliberately misled the PAC then she has committed a (criminal?) offence. I am therefore assuming that everything that Dr Glover has said in the yesterday's hearing is more or less true. I am also assuming that she would have taken a legal advice before giving her testimony.  

I also believe that if the IOMG does not accept that what Dr Glover has said was not truthful or was materially misleading, then they have an obligation to set the record straight. In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, then I say 'let the record stand' as Dr Glover described it.  

 

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14 minutes ago, Barlow said:

I don't think the Isle of Man is for you. Seriously.

Maybe now is the time for you to up and go. If you don't fancy UK, you could try CI.

We just need to catch up with the real world & not continue to live in a brigadoon led by duffers for old duffers like you 😀

and by the way I was born here, always lived here unlike some comeovers like you😂

 

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Just now, Banker said:

We just need to catch up with the real world & not continue to live in a brigadoon led by duffers for old duffers like you 😀

You make a good point of course, but at the heart of all this, the Isle of Man is...the Isle of Man. You either get it or you don't.

Too many people these days don't get it.

Now, more than ever the Isle of Man needs to assert its identity and not, not, not be just another county of UK.

Aye, you either get it or you don't. If you don't there's a ...........ah, forget it.

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Dr Glover could and maybe should 'sign' for another "Team".  Jsy & Gsy will ask (likely done so already).

Its what the 'Great Manx Politicians' deserve.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Barlow said:

You make a good point of course, but at the heart of all this, the Isle of Man is...the Isle of Man. You either get it or you don't.

Too many people these days don't get it.

Now, more than ever the Isle of Man needs to assert its identity and not, not, not be just another county of UK.

Aye, you either get it or you don't. If you don't there's a ...........ah, forget it.

Don’t think you get there’s a real world outside Isle of Man which has moved on & we could as well with proper leadership but forgot you’re a government shill 

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7 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

It wasn't taken down from her Twitter account, it's still there, but she said the nomination itself had mysteriously disappeared from the website or Facebook.  It actually looks as if all the 'news' section has been deleted, which rather contradicts the whole 'we want to celebrate all these people' vibe. 

The 'Extraordinary People' awards were run by Isle of Man Advertising and they clearly didn't want anyone who did anything controversial going forward to the public vote and upsetting anyone.  So it's all rainbows and cupcakes and determinedly trying to avoid reality.

James Davis is Head of Media, Isle of Man Advertising. He was formerly Manx Radio of course and was well respected but where I would suggest he was squeezed out during the dumbing down days.,

When Manx Radio had the Morning Mandate programme and interviews with politicians etc, you can be sure Dr Rachel Glover would have been interviewed on a number of occasions.

But The Nations Station (cost to the taxpayer £1million per annum) has been well and truly neutered and brought/bought onside. On message.

The Isle of Man Government now has an array of media types (including a number of former Manx Radio personnel) to try and control what the people of the Isle of Man are fed.

Sometimes the lid is going to blow off the pressure cooker.

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