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2 minutes ago, Banker said:

?? That’s doesn’t say anything only what was considered with no reasons etc , 

Correct. Zero minuting of who said what & where any evidence or substantiation originated.

Ergo: Bollocks.

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10 minutes ago, Banker said:

Brilliant plan which takes effect 26 April , as Howard said yesterday Guernsey and us have similar thinking so hopefully he will follow their lead as usual  , the usual crew will say well it’s all for tourists but it’s estimated that 75% of travelers will be residents in initial months 

Run it as residents only for a month and see how it works, then let friends and family members in. 

 

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6 minutes ago, winnie said:

Run it as residents only for a month and see how it works, then let friends and family members in. 

 

Well Howard has already said that families & friends can come wef end April, maybe no testing for vaccinated residents?

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4 minutes ago, Banker said:

Well Howard has already said that families & friends can come wef end April, maybe no testing for vaccinated residents?

Problem is they can still carry it. Think testing has to stay for a while, but the system needs to encourage people over, not discourage.

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Each family member/friend who is permitted to visit the Island should have a resident 'sponsor' who agrees to share responsibility for the visitor's adherence to quarantine regulations. They would also be held jointly responsible for any wilful breaches of protocol by the visitor.

Sounds a bit harsh, but as an initial additional safeguard it might help as we inch our way forward.

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From a confidence point of view does anyone actually truly believe that the government will get this right, when they can’t even get people on the island out of their homes?

it will just end up being mucked up and the great Manx Public will be blamed once Howard has asked for a paper to prepared to tell him what to think 

 

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3 minutes ago, McCallig said:

Each family member/friend who is permitted to visit the Island should have a resident 'sponsor' who agrees to share responsibility for the visitor's adherence to quarantine regulations. They would also be held jointly responsible for any wilful breaches of protocol by the visitor.

Sounds a bit harsh, but as an initial additional safeguard it might help as we inch our way forward.

Absolutely. Think it's an easy to work system and make it known there's a four week spell in Jurby for those that don't comply 

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2 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

From a confidence point of view does anyone actually truly believe that the government will get this right, when they can’t even get people on the island out of their homes?

it will just end up being mucked up and the great Manx Public will be blamed once Howard has asked for a paper to prepared to tell him what to think 

 

I think we all know that luck played a large part in the relative normality delivered by the elimination strategy, which is fine, everyone needs a little luck from time to time. The next bit is going to need more than luck and I am not particularly confident that we will negotiate mitigation well. I predict confusion, frustration and exasperation over the coming months with many people wondering what the hell we are doing being stuck on this island, rather than the adjacent isle. It is going to be really hard balancing the people who have family on island and want to remain in elimination mode, against the many who for whatever reason need/want to travel to the UK. Personally, my instinct is to trust in the vaccine, get as many jabbed by the end of July and then open up with absolutely no restrictions. Not a data or politically driven opinion, and not one that our leaders or many on MF would agree with, just an expression of my desire and hope that we may one day soon return to normal, and one of the many reasons that I will never be a politician.

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16 minutes ago, winnie said:

Absolutely. Think it's an easy to work system and make it known there's a four week spell in Jurby for those that don't comply 

Presumably the sponsor family will not be expected to physically incarcerate visiting relatives, but to inform plod if the relative isn't toeing the line? 

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1 minute ago, Gladys said:

Presumably the sponsor family will not be expected to physically incarcerate visiting relatives, but to inform plod if the relative isn't toeing the line? 

Inform Old Bill or 4 weeks db&b

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21 minutes ago, winnie said:

Absolutely. Think it's an easy to work system and make it known there's a four week spell in Jurby for those that don't comply 

FFS are you wanting more of a police state than Russia!!

Howie said this yesterday 

Simon: Australia and New Zealand have bubbled. Are we considering new air bridges with Guernsey, Malta and Gibraltar?

HQ: I’d like to see Guernsey introduced as our thinking is similar. The UK has said there will be little international travel, with fines in place. We need to respect the UK rules as we go through their territory. 

Once we get on top of the virus, I’ll work on the airbridge with Guernsey. 

So if airbridge is being established we either need to have similar borders rules and Guernsey will be allowing uk visitors from 26/04 with no isolation from various area with low rates. If we don’t have similar rules we will have to accept the great Manx public mixing with non isolating UK visitors.

We need to get a move on not introducing more draconian police state rules!!!

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4 minutes ago, Banker said:

FFS are you wanting more of a police state than Russia!!

Howie said this yesterday 

Simon: Australia and New Zealand have bubbled. Are we considering new air bridges with Guernsey, Malta and Gibraltar?

HQ: I’d like to see Guernsey introduced as our thinking is similar. The UK has said there will be little international travel, with fines in place. We need to respect the UK rules as we go through their territory. 

Once we get on top of the virus, I’ll work on the airbridge with Guernsey. 

So if airbridge is being established we either need to have similar borders rules and Guernsey will be allowing uk visitors from 26/04 with no isolation from various area with low rates. If we don’t have similar rules we will have to accept the great Manx public mixing with non isolating UK visitors.

We need to get a move on not introducing more draconian police state rules!!!

If there's no deterrent, the system will be abused. What do Guernsey do when people refuse to isolate?

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13 minutes ago, Out of the blue said:

I predict confusion, frustration and exasperation over the coming months with many people wondering what the hell we are doing being stuck on this island, rather than the adjacent isle.

Agree. In the first instance can anyone shed any more light on this pleases.

https://www.three.fm/news/coronavirus/advice-on-shielding-to-fall-away-from-monday/

Schools to open on Monday, but only for vulnerable children and children of essential workers only is my understanding. Teachers are to be on a rota but many will still be at home I hear. Home learning to continue next week for the rest.

I have been told some head teachers do not agree with HQ about shielding and that it should be continued.

Should all children go back on Monday  and all teachers and let shielding now just "fall away". ?

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6 minutes ago, Apple said:

Agree. In the first instance can anyone shed any more light on this pleases.

https://www.three.fm/news/coronavirus/advice-on-shielding-to-fall-away-from-monday/

Schools to open on Monday, but only for vulnerable children and children of essential workers only is my understanding. Teachers are to be on a rota but many will still be at home I hear. Home learning to continue next week for the rest.

I have been told some head teachers do not agree with HQ about shielding and that it should be continued.

Should all children go back on Monday  and all teachers and let shielding now just "fall away". ?

Yes all children should be back & shielding has finished. I think many have been using the shielding excuse to avoid work & still get paid .

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