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1 hour ago, Utah 01 said:

Couldn't agree more - but here's the difference:

Snowdonia - 6 million people plus within 2 hours drive; cost - half a tank of petrol.

Isle of Man - also with an immediate, proximate catchment of similar numbers (if not more) BUT - a 2 1/2 to 4 1/2 ferry journey with little change from £250.

Now, you're (hypothetically) living in Chester - which one do you go to?

Why would you bother...?

By Newgate turn South down Park St past the tithe cottages.

The first turning on the right you come to is Albion St.

The building on the corner between Albion St and Park St is The Albion PH. One of the best pubs ever.

You will know you've found the right place if there is a small blackboard on the bar reading:

THIS WEEK'S GUEST LAGER

"I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT PISS...."

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8 hours ago, P.K. said:

New concerns as Indian Covid variant clusters found across England

Leaked emails show Public Health England assessment of ongoing risk from B16172 variant is ‘high’

Clusters of the Indian variants of Covid-19 have been found across England, including in care homes, the Guardian has learned, amid growing fears about the speed with which they are spreading in communities.

The latest update of case numbers of these variants was due to be published on Thursday. But leaked emails seen by the Guardian show the announcement was delayed until at least Friday because of the local elections.

PHE said the delay was due to “a processing issue”. - Yeah.... Right....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/06/new-concerns-indian-covid-variant-clusters-found-across-england-ongoing-risk-high

Varients of concern, mutatations etc are going to exist for quite some time yet. Interesting to read that the strain found its way into vaccinated care home residents, who although they were admitted to hospital (abudance of caution?) did not get severely ill and are now fine. If that turns out to be the pattern amongst vaccinated, older vulnerable people, I would hope that governments will take measured and proportional measures and not get bounced into a political over reaction by a covid obsessed media. 

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32 minutes ago, Banker said:

Major new study on Israel data shows vaccinations not lockdown stop infections 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9545897/Coronavirus-real-world-data-proves-Pfizer-Covid-jab-77-98-effective.html

You are picking up on a perfectly valid point, but your inflected hyperbole has made you look silly. Your either/or binary statement is detracting from the reality of the headline: Vaccines NOT lockdowns are the 'key driver' for curbing Covid outbreaks.

I think that is more-or-less obvious anyway.

Lockdown had its place when the vaccine was but a dream.

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17 minutes ago, Barlow said:

You are picking up on a perfectly valid point, but your inflected hyperbole has made you look silly. Your either/or binary statement is detracting from the reality of the headline: Vaccines NOT lockdowns are the 'key driver' for curbing Covid outbreaks.

I think that is more-or-less obvious anyway.

Lockdown had its place when the vaccine was but a dream.

Bloody hell that’s rich coming from you, thought you were part of Cambon group who think only lockdowns stop infections not vaccinations !

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24 minutes ago, Barlow said:

You are picking up on a perfectly valid point, but your inflected hyperbole has made you look silly. Your either/or binary statement is detracting from the reality of the headline: Vaccines NOT lockdowns are the 'key driver' for curbing Covid outbreaks.

I think that is more-or-less obvious anyway.

Lockdown had its place when the vaccine was but a dream.

Yet there are many (here) who argue vehemently that lockdowns are the primary reason why infections & deaths are falling.

They are clearly deluded bells who are intent on continuing to ‘work from home’ or spin out MERA or other handouts as long as the Government teat will allow them to suckle from it.

Covid has shown them up to be the layabout chancers that they are.

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1 minute ago, Nom de plume said:

Yet there are many (here) who argue vehemently that lockdowns are the primary reason why infections & deaths are falling.

They are clearly deluded bells who are intent on continuing to ‘work from home’ or spin out MERA or other handouts as long as the Government teat will allow them to suckle from it.

Covid has shown them up to be the layabout chancers that they are.

You may deride working from home, but, a number of the world's largest companies are keeping it around. Turns out, happy employees are more productive.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/06/994123311/google-adapts-to-long-term-telework-offers-employees-hybrid-work-week

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Just now, AcousticallyChallenged said:

You may deride working from home, but, a number of the world's largest companies are keeping it around. Turns out, happy employees are more productive.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/06/994123311/google-adapts-to-long-term-telework-offers-employees-hybrid-work-week

I don’t buy it but I’m VERY old skool.

Far too many distractions at home for the majority.

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4 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

spin out MERA or other handouts as long as the Government teat will allow them to suckle from it.

Covid has shown them up to be the layabout chancers that they are.

Who are these people? Do they actually exist? 

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1 hour ago, Banker said:

Major new study on Israel data shows vaccinations not lockdown stop infections 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9545897/Coronavirus-real-world-data-proves-Pfizer-Covid-jab-77-98-effective.html

Not many people were abiding by the lockdown rules in the UK in the last few months so it's not a surprise the vaccine is being seen as the success.

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Henny the Director of Public Health whinging how she dreads the borders opening fully, for the fear of new variants etc. Well her boss Ashie and HRH The Chief Minister don’t like Rachel Glover the Specialist in tracing these variants etc, so that’s one handicap the islands got.

An idea for when the borders reopen properly, would be to have a team of people on the Mannanan and Ben my Chree to take swabs prior to boarding, at Heysham and Liverpool. These can be sent immediately to be analysed. Anyone infected can be informed. On their return to the island perhaps more testing.

Sadly this costs money, but it’s a question of priorities. Wasting money on pointless capital schemes or protecting its citizens whilst not strangling its economy.

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4 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Henny the Director of Public Health whinging how she dreads the borders opening fully, for the fear of new variants etc. Well her boss Ashie and HRH The Chief Minister don’t like Rachel Glover the Specialist in tracing these variants etc, so that’s one handicap the islands got.

An idea for when the borders reopen properly, would be to have a team of people on the Mannanan and Ben my Chree to take swabs prior to boarding, at Heysham and Liverpool. These can be sent immediately to be analysed. Anyone infected can be informed. On their return to the island perhaps more testing.

Sadly this costs money, but it’s a question of priorities. Wasting money on pointless capital schemes or protecting its citizens whilst not strangling its economy.

How and where are they sent immediately for analysis?

I kind of agree, but the practical aspects may be more difficult to arrange. 

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