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1 hour ago, Banker said:

Open your eyes, food bank, housing for homeless and other charities have reported dramatic increases in demand. Are you just stupid or incredibly insensitive?

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But demand has risen steadily and from April to the end of December 2020, it helped 3,382 households, with an average of 375 food parcels being distributed each month. They expect to exceed 5,000 parcels this year.

Build it and they will come! 

I am not against food banks at all, but the fact that the use of them has increased from nothing to where it is now does not reflect a destitute society. 

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7 minutes ago, Cambon said:

the fact that the use of them has increased from nothing to where it is now does not reflect a destitute society. 

 
it reflects one with deep hidden problems
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27 minutes ago, Cambon said:

Build it and they will come! 

I am not against food banks at all, but the fact that the use of them has increased from nothing to where it is now does not reflect a destitute society. 

What?

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The UK Government announced the establishment of a full public inquiry into the handling of the pandemic and lessons learned and lessons to be learned. 
 

If the UK Government are making plans for the inquiry, the arrangements, the chair appointed along with the experts, as well as the terms of reference to be agreed, before the start of the inquiry in the Spring of 2022. My point being, will HRH The Chief Minister follow suit for a public inquiry, not a tame Tynpotwald select committee, but a proper inquiry with teeth, chaired independently by a UK QC, with powers to call witnesses and question under oath? Like the UK this island has been badly affected and closure required, but for the closure serious questions of the politicos and civil servants are needed, without bullshit and spin. If it’s under oath some of our civil servants, departments and ministers will have to actually tell the truth, along the documents published - i.e, NOT SHREDDED!

The polices review of Abbotswood should not be used as a barrier or smokescreen as to prevent any inquiry taking place. 

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U.K. Health Minister:

“No evidence to suggest the vaccines being used are ineffective against the Indian variant”

Do you think that’ll be enough to quell the latest MSM panic stories?

Nah, me neither ... Let’s scare the **** out of those already petrified for another few weeks at least.

The BAME’s need to be vaccinated & they need to be vaccinated quickly. Their community leaders need to be doing more to reinforce the message.

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11 hours ago, Happier diner said:

I'm afraid you are talking absolute nonsense

Don't be afraid.

"The Sinopharm product is an inactivated vaccine called SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine (Vero Cell). Its easy storage requirements make it highly suitable for low-resource settings. It is the also first vaccine that will carry a vaccine vial monitor, a small sticker on the vaccine vials that change color as the vaccine is exposed to heat, letting health workers know whether the vaccine can be safely used."

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7 hours ago, Cambon said:

Build it and they will come! 

I am not against food banks at all, but the fact that the use of them has increased from nothing to where it is now does not reflect a destitute society. 

Almost as stupid as your borders comments!

here’s another report on poverty 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/poverty-increased-in-2020-says-housing-charity/

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4 hours ago, 2112 said:

The UK Government announced the establishment of a full public inquiry into the handling of the pandemic and lessons learned and lessons to be learned. 
If the UK Government are making plans for the inquiry, the arrangements, the chair appointed along with the experts, as well as the terms of reference to be agreed, before the start of the inquiry in the Spring of 2022. 

The plan is to make the UK inquiry terms of reference as broad as possible. Because the more far-reaching it is the longer it will take.

Therefore I can absolutely guarantee that it will not publish it's findings until after the next election.

That's very hard on those who want answers as to why their family members and loved ones had lives tragically cut short by the virus but, of course, Bozo doesn't care about that...

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9 hours ago, Cambon said:

Build it and they will come! 

I am not against food banks at all, but the fact that the use of them has increased from nothing to where it is now does not reflect a destitute society. 

It may not reflect a destitute society, but it represents destitution within a society. 

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13 hours ago, thommo2010 said:

 

Fact is politicians are happy to wait and see because their salary isn't affected, stick them on furlough for months I'm sure we'd be back to normal in no time.

 

Better still send them home on no pay like a lot of others have had to endure.

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12 hours ago, swoopy2110 said:

a virus that in the vast majority of cases produces cold like symptoms .

A lot of people may "get away with it", but it is killing people in their millions (over 3,375,000 and rising at the rate of at least 13,000 per day, worldwide.)

Massive numbers have been hospitalised, some for long periods.

Large numbers have been left with "long covid", which has left them debilitated long term.

It is not "just another" cold, or flu.

That is not just any other scare story, it is how it is. Why else should every country in the world have been trying to fight it?

Try looking at places like India, where they are so desperate they've been dumping bodies into rivers, and plastering themselves with cow dung, because they've been told that will keep the virus away (it would keep anything away!). 

We're well off here, and it is easy to forget about what others are having to suffer.

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1 hour ago, Gladys said:

It may not reflect a destitute society, but it represents destitution within a society. 

Absolutely! There is, and always will be people who genuinely need help. Food banks are a good thing, but they are not a solution. 

More a topic for a new thread.

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3 hours ago, Banker said:

Almost as stupid as your borders comments!

here’s another report on poverty 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/poverty-increased-in-2020-says-housing-charity/

Of course poverty increased last year. The fact that they were contacted by only 500 or so people at a time of very high unemployment and generally reduced income is actually fantastic. In normal times, very few on the Island are in long term poverty. Most people go through blips at some time in their lives. But if you think there is a problem on the IOM with long term poverty, you are even more deluded than I thought. 

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4 minutes ago, Cambon said:

Of course poverty increased last year. The fact that they were contacted by only 500 or so people at a time of very high unemployment and generally reduced income is actually fantastic. In normal times, very few on the Island are in long term poverty. Most people go through blips at some time in their lives. But if you think there is a problem on the IOM with long term poverty, you are even more deluded than I thought. 

There is genuine pockets of poverty but out of those statistics there are those that could be termed ‘undeserving poor’, those scrounging and taking the piss, at the expense of those who have hit rock bottom and are genuine, but at the same time are proactive in trying to resolve their problems and demons, 

A example - some low income families and individuals get assistance from the Island charities towards fuel costs - coal, electric and gas assistance. It has been known for some who suffer from drug issues to sell vouchers for cash. I’m sure others may have heard these tales. 
 

I am not calling or criticising but telling how it is. Years ago the idea mooted was for a voucher system for those in need to buy food and essentials- no fags or booze! It was shot down in flames. 
 

There is poverty but it’s not always the idea to throw money at the problem, there are other ways to help, and hopefully the persons in receipt of the help will be able to turn their lives around. 

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