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39 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

The entirely trustworthy Dominic Cummings is completely shitting all over Boris and Hancock today. 

We need someone from the inside who isn't an odious lying prick to speak up here too.

If they weren't an odious lying prick they wouldn't be on the inside.  And that applies just as much to the journalists covering them.  And yes 'covering' is deliberately ambiguous.

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3 hours ago, Gladys said:

This morning on MR he said about the decision not to test SP crew after their request that it was easy to be wise in hindsight.  It wasn't hindsight as many were saying they should be tested,but that fell on deaf ears.

They should have been tested from April, as soon as we had the on-Island capacity.  Instead the Government was still refusing to do it in December when the lab wasn't even operating at 10% of what it could do.  The only reason there weren't more calls for crew testing was that everyone assumed that it was happening automatically as you see in places like New Zealand.  In the end the Steam Packet ended up using LFTs which proved to be unreliable, as we all knew they were.

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13 hours ago, trmpton said:

Ps. If you think that is busy you don't understand how a place makes money.

If you were in bar logo mid evening you should have said hello.  Would have been easy, there was noone in there.

You are very patronising. You obviously don't know how pubs work these days. From about 11:00am, they are serving coffee and cakes to older people at a vast mark up. Lunchtime comes and there are plenty of people out for a bite and paying a lot for it. Don't forget, vat on food has been dropped to 5%. But you have not seen food prices drop, have you? Drive past the Shore in Gansey any lunch time, any evening and the place is packed.

Yes , some places are struggling. There are always places that struggle. But the main reason for this is the need for change. 

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6 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Given that the 'other SARS outbreak' killed 10% of those it infected, I don't think anyone thought it was nothing to worry about, especially not in China and nearby countries where most of the deaths happened.

I'm talking about UKG and by extension IOMG their executive & politicians. A lot of people back in 2003 didn't know it even existed. Cummings evidence being given today would suggest exactly that.

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35 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

If they weren't an odious lying prick they wouldn't be on the inside.  And that applies just as much to the journalists covering them.  And yes 'covering' is deliberately ambiguous.

It is rather amusing that all the tory questioning is deliberately trying to undermine Cummings because the UK pandemic story is so bad they know it's the only shot they've got.

No doubt in PMQ's today Bozo will mention the vaccination program as often as he can (but not the Vaccination Task Force brainchild of Vallance, the Loggies doing all the heavy lifting and the NHS with their kick-in-the-teeth 1% payrise putting jabs in arms) because it's the only success in this whole sorry mess. The more he mentions it the more he hopes the hard of thinking will associate him with it and not those who actually deserve the credit.

Tomorrows headlines in the UK's rabid right wing press in thrall to the agenda of the owner, which is to say pretty much all of it, should be worth a good laugh...

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16 minutes ago, P.K. said:

It is rather amusing that all the tory questioning is deliberately trying to undermine Cummings

Agreed - very pointed questions basically inferring that as he was so 'close' to Johnson, why didn't he sort everything out and his inaction was to blame.  The oft repeated message by Cummings that the entire Whitehall/ Civil Service machine was completely unprepared and, even when the size of the problem was recognized, it lacked any ability to plan and cope with it.  The majority of Tory questioners seemed more intent on taking down the man rather than recognising he and many others were smashing their heads into brick walls.

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2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Is it Greg Clarke

He was leading the charge on Cummings. It seemed to me that the Tories were playing a pre-planned gambit - deflect from Cummings' (justified) criticisms of the system and instead make it more of an investigation into him.  Cummings was quite open when on several occasions he admitted to lack of foresight and inaction - but Clark was more interested in what Cummings might have mentioned to the BBC than the fact that there were no plans in place for anything.

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1 hour ago, P.K. said:

It is rather amusing that all the tory questioning is deliberately trying to undermine Cummings because the UK pandemic story is so bad they know it's the only shot they've got.

No doubt in PMQ's today Bozo will mention the vaccination program as often as he can (but not the Vaccination Task Force brainchild of Vallance, the Loggies doing all the heavy lifting and the NHS with their kick-in-the-teeth 1% payrise putting jabs in arms) because it's the only success in this whole sorry mess. The more he mentions it the more he hopes the hard of thinking will associate him with it and not those who actually deserve the credit.

Tomorrows headlines in the UK's rabid right wing press in thrall to the agenda of the owner, which is to say pretty much all of it, should be worth a good laugh...

All very very true

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3 hours ago, Cambon said:

You are very patronising. You obviously don't know how pubs work these days. From about 11:00am, they are serving coffee and cakes to older people at a vast mark up. Lunchtime comes and there are plenty of people out for a bite and paying a lot for it. Don't forget, vat on food has been dropped to 5%. But you have not seen food prices drop, have you? Drive past the Shore in Gansey any lunch time, any evening and the place is packed.

Yes , some places are struggling. There are always places that struggle. But the main reason for this is the need for change. 

Coffee & cakes in pubs FFS , well Albert, rovers, woody, blind pig , saddle to name a few in Douglas don’t,  none in port Erin, PSM or castletown or Laxey as far as I know so where are these busy cake pubs??

Shore in gansey is busy but doesn’t do cake & coffee before 12.

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