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12 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Well, the places that don't have masks and restrictions generally have either high levels of vaccination, stringent border controls and testing or both. To someone from the UK, 8 countries are open, 111 have restrictions and 102 have their borders closed.

Which of the rest of the world, bar the US, don't have masks and restrictions, whilst having open borders? I think you'll find the number is slimmer than you think.

The US is arguably an outlier, being formed of such a diverse set of state governments. They also had COVID rip through, and are quite far along in their vaccination program. Out of everyone over 12, 64% of them have had a first dose, and 55% of them have had a second. Note that in the UK, there's a big bias towards cases in the younger age groups, where the plan seems to be 'let it rip through the kids, they're resilient enough, hopefully'. I wonder if their geography and generally big indoor spaces also influence things too. You don't have to be anywhere near people if you don't want to be, almost everything is drive through.

Didn’t say anything  about borders.  I said restrictions.

You think the majority of the worlds population are currently doing social distancing, masks, and have any significant restrictions on anything but the biggest of crowd gatherings?

They don’t, those with all that nonsense are the minority 

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4 minutes ago, oooohtony said:

Didn’t say anything  about borders.  I said restrictions.

You think the majority of the worlds population are currently doing social distancing, masks, and have any significant restrictions on anything but the biggest of crowd gatherings?

They don’t, those with all that nonsense are the minority 

Most of Europe does as of about a week ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53640249

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1 minute ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Most of Europe does as of about a week ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53640249

I know.  The world is a lot bigger than Europe, the states and Australia.

The majority of the worlds population is living near normal lives and not dropping dead in any numbers greater than other years 

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8 minutes ago, oooohtony said:

I know.  The world is a lot bigger than Europe, the states and Australia.

The majority of the worlds population is living near normal lives and not dropping dead in any numbers greater than other years 

You mean, places like Indonesia where they're claiming to be on the brink of catastrophe?

Or Africa where COVID related deaths are up by 19%? 21 African countries are reporting COVID-related death rates over the global average. South Africa had 173k excess deaths between 6th May 2020 and 19th June 2021.

South America aren't doing particularly well either. They're reporting a third of daily global deaths as of a week ago, despite being only 5% of global population. Never mind the impact this is having on kids who have been out of school the longest in the world. https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/06/19/latin-americas-silent-tragedy-of-empty-classrooms

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56 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

You mean, places like Indonesia where they're claiming to be on the brink of catastrophe?

Or Africa where COVID related deaths are up by 19%? 21 African countries are reporting COVID-related death rates over the global average. South Africa had 173k excess deaths between 6th May 2020 and 19th June 2021.

South America aren't doing particularly well either. They're reporting a third of daily global deaths as of a week ago, despite being only 5% of global population. Never mind the impact this is having on kids who have been out of school the longest in the world. https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/06/19/latin-americas-silent-tragedy-of-empty-classrooms

Yeah, but apart from Europe, North America. South America, Asia, Africa and Australia, the rest of the world is completely free from Covid restrictions.  Have you ever seen a penguin in a face-mask?

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To be fair to Ashie, he speaks with great confidence which does give the public much needed confidence in what he is saying, especially in a pandemic.

Unfortunately a lot of what he says is bollocks, like many politicians, but at least most of the others are so transparent that it doesn't matter!

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Just now, Max Power said:

To be fair to Ashie, he speaks with great confidence which does give the public much needed confidence in what he is saying...

A lot of generals tended to do that in the first world war.

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4 minutes ago, Max Power said:

To be fair to Ashie, he speaks with great confidence which does give the public much needed confidence in what he is saying, especially in a pandemic.

Unfortunately a lot of what he says is bollocks, like many politicians, but at least most of the others are so transparent that it doesn't matter!

I would be fair, if what he said wasn't bollocks.  I like someone who is either honest enough to admit they don't know and defer to those who do or are sufficiently guileless to be clearly bullshitting.  I don't like people who can bullshit with conviction.  

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4 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Unfortunately a lot of what he says is bollocks, like many politicians, but at least most of the others are so transparent that it doesn't matter!

Allinson was the same the other day. He declared they aren't isolating children who are close contacts / classmates of infected children. This is not true at all. 

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9 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Yeah, but apart from Europe, North America. South America, Asia, Africa and Australia, the rest of the world is completely free from Covid restrictions.  Have you ever seen a penguin in a face-mask?

You seen how many people live in India? China? Asia? USA? Canada?

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Just now, oooohtony said:

You seen how many people live in India? China? Asia? USA? Canada?

You're right, they're doing alright with no restrictions up in Antarctica. We should just suck it up like them.

I've heard the International Space Station are managing to avoid it too, and they go all over the world. :D

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13 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

You're right, they're doing alright with no restrictions up in Antarctica. We should just suck it up like them.

I've heard the International Space Station are managing to avoid it too, and they go all over the world. :D

I am

not saying nowhere has had restrictions.  I am saying a lot more of the world is returning to normal than ours and the UK press are making out.

Peoples perception of what is happening in the rest of the world is skewed by one sided reporting of doom and gloom.

The 7 day average of cases in India is not far off 10 percent of what it was when our press were interested.  Haven’t seen many follow up reports on how much better things are there now.

This recent article is typical.  All doom and gloom.  Thousands of cases blah blah.

Per head of population it’s buttons.  Why not report the huge decreases in numbers recently?

 

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Isolation to be dropped from 19 July if travelling from outside common travel area & on the Green list.

Sense is finally prevailing within CoMin.

Looking very much like Freedom Day is on like Donkey Kong.

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