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26 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

You've got to remember Gladys it's Facebook. If you believed everything on Facebook then you'd believe the island gets paid to take the UK pedophiles. That's something that doesn't happen either. 

I'm not surprised.  We've got plenty enough of our own to be going on with, thanks.

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24 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

.... vaccination needs to be supported by public health. For the people who can't have it, and the people who it won't work for.

 

 

Public Health should certainly support those who cannot gave the vax, but those who choose not to should be given the freedom to do as they need to protect themselves without any state support. 

A discussion last night about whether staff in UK nursing homes should be required to have the vax was quite interesting.  The majority were of the view that there should be a requirement, with the only dispensation being on medical grounds, in which case they should expect to be moved into a less front line position but their other employment rights protected.  Those who choose not to have the vax should expect to be also moved or, if they object, found unable to perform their role.

Let's not forget that the residents of UK care homes have been prevented from seeing their family for a very long time to protect them, to jeopardise their health now because of an ill-founded belief would be nothing short of negligence. Someone who thinks that way is not suited to the care of the vulnerable.

That may be unpopular and some think contrary to equality laws, but I am not sure being a twat is a protected characteristic.

 

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, snowman said:

Wonder how many of the active cases were unvaccinated

See I wonder how many are double jabbed and how many close contacts don’t need to isolate that would’ve done this time last year.

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38 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

So then, @quilp, nail your colours, which one? 

I'll just carry on following the science without looking for confirmation bias either way thus making my own mind up. I'd rather leave the dogma and bombast to people like you and just continue to distance, wash/gel the hands (and face) even though I'm double-jabbed, for the sake of myself and others. It's not difficult, no need for panic and hyperbole.

As soon as there is reasonable science kids should be vaccinated. The research into oral and aerosol routes for vaccination purposes seems to be coming along nicely, as is the acquired knowledge.

 

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10 minutes ago, quilp said:

I'll just carry on following the science without looking for confirmation bias either way thus making my own mind up. I'd rather leave the dogma and bombast to people like you and just continue to distance, wash/gel the hands (and face) even though I'm double-jabbed, for the sake of myself and others. It's not difficult, no need for panic and hyperbole.

As soon as there is reasonable science kids should be vaccinated. The research into oral and aerosol routes for vaccination purposes seems to be coming along nicely, as is the acquired knowledge.

 

Dogma and bombast. How cheeky?

I wasnt having a go at you, more the lady here quoted. I am a bit fed up of experts who have lots of ideas about what we shouldn't be doing and criticising but dont have suggestions (realistic ones anyway) about what we should be doing. 

There is no easy pathway. My view is that we shouldn't be vaccinating the u16s at the moment. It's a view based on gut feeling only.

We keep being told that the risk to children is so small that vaccination is not warranted,  but then we get experts saying we shouldn't be allowing the virus to run through schools uncontrolled.

Might point was....its one or the other. Which is best/worst.

 

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1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Frankly, I think leaving it to personal responsibility is a load of rubbish. You either point out that it is something to worry about, and encourage public health measures, or you re-assure people that they can crack on as normal.

That’s quite simple, by asking people to make their own decisions, when it all goes wrong (and it will) they can throw the blame straight back onto the public and sidestep all responsibility.

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6 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

That’s quite simple, by asking people to make their own decisions, when it all goes wrong (and it will) they can throw the blame straight back onto the public and sidestep all responsibility.

It's understandable to be scared, it's a big change. There are plenty of resources online that may help you.

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11 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

That’s quite simple, by asking people to make their own decisions, when it all goes wrong (and it will) they can throw the blame straight back onto the public and sidestep all responsibility.

You're bang on the money. It has happened before.

It's a political move for a big summer party with some chance of maybe getting away with it.

Not to add cynicism, but it's scheduled conveniently 3 days before the start of Parliament's summer recess too. 

 

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