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4 hours ago, Nom de plume said:

For all parents (such as I).

0.005 of all Covid deaths have been amongst under 18’s.

There is absolutely no need to have your child vaccinated.

I took mine to enable travel which still looks like one big lie.

And 100% of the people having to take time off work to look after isolating children, affecting the economy are adults, regardless of whether they have been vaccinated or not. 

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No Covishield vaccines administered in the Isle of Man

 

"Isle of Man residents who have received the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine are being reassured that no doses branded Covishield have been administered on the Island.

Covishield – manufactured by the Serum Institute of India – has not been approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).  It led to concerns that anyone who had received the Covishield vaccine would not be able to travel to the EU free from testing and isolation restrictions, despite being fully vaccinated."

I'm pretty sure that my first dose was from one of the listed batches......

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16 minutes ago, kevster said:

No Covishield vaccines administered in the Isle of Man

 

"Isle of Man residents who have received the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine are being reassured that no doses branded Covishield have been administered on the Island.

Covishield – manufactured by the Serum Institute of India – has not been approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).  It led to concerns that anyone who had received the Covishield vaccine would not be able to travel to the EU free from testing and isolation restrictions, despite being fully vaccinated."

I'm pretty sure that my first dose was from one of the listed batches......

 

Me too. Completely contradicts what the media said.

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4 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said:

 

Let us know what he comes back with please.

Typical IOM Civil Service who do not fully check the implications of a Government Statement before it is issued. What about those vaccinated with these non-approved batch numbers should have been considered. 

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45 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said:

Me too. Completely contradicts what the media said.

It's not the media's fault, they are merely quoting from what the IOM Government press release says.

Technically they may be correct because it says "no doses branded Covishield have been administered on the Island" which will be true as they will have been branded the same as all the other AZ vaccines received.  But it's not the name on the box that is the problem, but where they were made.  So they are providing reassurance about something that wasn't required.

It's true that, based on this BBC piece from six days ago, that the UK DoH claimed the 'three SII batch numbers [...] were being "assessed and are treated as Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca"'.  And  "All AstraZeneca vaccines given in the UK are the same product and appear on the NHS Covid Pass as Vaxzevria. The European Medicines Agency has authorised this vaccine and we're confident travel will not be affected."

But of course they can't dictate to the EU what the EU will or won't accept and the system doesn't seem to be working yet anyway, though individual EU counties may well accept them, just as they are accepting Russian or Chinese vaccines.

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2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

Well it wasn't really an argument, was it?  More a cry for help.  Or of despair.

I'm afraid I've long since given up trying to understand what the actual regulations surrounding isolation, testing and quarantine say, never mind whether they make any sense.  They were a bit incoherent to start with and have just got worse as the Manx government tried to mirror the ever-more nonsensical decisions of the UK. 

It's not that they're over-lax or unnecessarily restrictive, it's that they frequently manage to be both at the same time.  And so badly presented that no one understands them and ends up doing whatever they want.  The appropriate regulations (if they even exist) will probably be so badly drafted that they will be unusable, so there will be no comeback.

The most depressing thing about the last 18 months or so has been the way in which hardly anyone seems to have learnt anything.  Rather than accepting some failures are inevitable and learning from them, they just pretend they never happened and repeat the same mistakes even more enthusiastically.

There is still a major inconsistency in the advice on the Gov website

I expect it will be sorted soon.

Basically if you have 2+2 you do not need to isolate if there has been a close contact ....unless the test and trace tell you to. This is despite the vaccine exemption stating that you are exeempt

2 hours ago, TerryFuchwit said:

Certainly worth avoiding any form of testing unless you have absolutely no choice.

 

Yes indeed. There is nothing in it for anyone to be so honest as to go and have a test.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

It's not the media's fault, they are merely quoting from what the IOM Government press release says.

Technically they may be correct because it says "no doses branded Covishield have been administered on the Island" which will be true as they will have been branded the same as all the other AZ vaccines received.  But it's not the name on the box that is the problem, but where they were made.  So they are providing reassurance about something that wasn't required.

It's true that, based on this BBC piece from six days ago, that the UK DoH claimed the 'three SII batch numbers [...] were being "assessed and are treated as Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca"'.  And  "All AstraZeneca vaccines given in the UK are the same product and appear on the NHS Covid Pass as Vaxzevria. The European Medicines Agency has authorised this vaccine and we're confident travel will not be affected."

But of course they can't dictate to the EU what the EU will or won't accept and the system doesn't seem to be working yet anyway, though individual EU counties may well accept them, just as they are accepting Russian or Chinese vaccines.

It's just bullshit. Sometimes it's like listening to a child talk when Ashford is quoted. It's a needlessly obtuse answer which will confuse an already confusing situation.

Were these vaccines made in India and rebranded as Vaxzevria? Yes.

Will these batches of vaccines stop people from being able to travel into certain European countries? Yes.

Why on earth did they feel the need to release this statement?

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1 hour ago, Major Rushen said:

As usual…. Cannot answer the primary question. Why are these batch numbers not approved by the EMA, what is being done about it, and when will it be fixed.

I did explain when this first came to public attention, it’s lost somewhere above.

Both the MHRA and EMA emergency authorisation was for a named vaccine manufactured by a specified manufacturer, in a specified country and factory. In each case UK and Belgium. Not India. The authorisations are on line. 

In February there was a slow down in supply as the production lines were temporarily scaled back to allow expansion. MHRA then issued a further emergency authorisation which specifies India, the Serum Institute of India and one of their factories. That’s where the batch Z001, 2 and 3 come from. EMA didn’t. 

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