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3 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Meeting in hybrid form now according to Gef, a bit like a delicate rose.

Saves the embarrassment of losing the suspension of standing orders and the presidential election straight afterwards, now he's just going to lose the latter. 

The next question is how did they manage to get lateral flows tests when the public are struggling to get them?

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50 minutes ago, Utah 01 said:

Apologies for the poor repro.

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You may wish to note that I cited a peer-reviewed journal article, rather than a blurry news article… 

Primary sources are important, that’s covered even at GCSE level. 

Even if you read the original Telegraph article, you’ll note that it’s an opinion piece, rather than citing any research. 

Edit to add: the chap in question clearly has an axe to grind and only references vaguely a single Danish study. Since then, we’ve had evidence from other countries that mask wearing was the biggest contributor in Victoria, Australia in reducing spread. 

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55 minutes ago, Utah 01 said:

Apologies for the poor repro.

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The study your chap references is discussed here. https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4586

The trial is inconclusive rather than negative, and it points to a likely benefit of mask wearing to the wearer—it did not examine the wider potential benefit of reduced spread of infection to others—and this even in a population where mask wearing isn’t mandatory and prevalence of infection is low. This finding is in keeping with summaries of evidence from Cochrane”. 

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7 hours ago, QuackyWebster said:

Anyone know if residents need to wait 2 weeks to travel to the UK after their 2nd vaccine?? I know this rule exists for people coming to the island but I’ve heard different things about UK travel.

No, you don’t have to wait. You’ve always been free to leave. That hasn’t changed.

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

No, you don’t have to wait. You’ve always been free to leave. That hasn’t changed.

However, as a resident (or non resident),  in order to take advantage of the vaccine exemption pathway, you have to be double vaccinated and your second vaccination must have been two weeks prior to your return to the island. 

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2 minutes ago, Itsmeee said:

However, as a resident (or non resident),  in order to take advantage of the vaccine exemption pathway, you have to be double vaccinated and your second vaccination must have been two weeks prior to your return to the island. 

That’s the answer to a different question

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2 hours ago, John Wright said:

No, you don’t have to wait. You’ve always been free to leave. That hasn’t changed.

well yes,  but free to leave isn't the same as being free to arrive at your intended destination. ask jet ski man ( also an answer to a different question )

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35 minutes ago, WTF said:

well yes,  but free to leave isn't the same as being free to arrive at your intended destination. ask jet ski man ( also an answer to a different question )

Given that until 14 days ago we could only exit to England ( the Guernsey airbridge exception apart ) for 18 months, and England had no restrictions on entrants from IoM, it has amounted to the same thing for leaving IoM 

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10 hours ago, Apple said:

Too true.

Given that we. are supposed to be 'living with Covid' then why have more hospital restrictions been imposed (15 mins lists, phone beforehand etc) ?

Of course those changes make sense but they contradict the message Ministers are trying to convey. So does holding Tynwald virtually. It seems again one message colliding into another.

I think this speaks for far too many people now.  Personally I have lost confidence in DA and his mixed signals. Where is the Infection Control advice to the public (remember they brought the person responsible out early on in the outbreak). Where is Henrietta and her reading of our situation.

I hear the squabbling behind the scenes is quite fierce. DA needs to let go now. This will not end well for some.

 

Restrictions are being put in place as they are reacting to an emerging situation. That's what government's do.

Why does the public need 'Infection Control' advice now? Unless some people have been hibernating the past 18 months it's blindingly obvious what people can do to limit their risk.

Just own your own situation and stop looking to government for all your answers. We all know the drill by now. 

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17 minutes ago, Danoo said:

Restrictions are being put in place as they are reacting to an emerging situation. That's what government's do.

Why does the public need 'Infection Control' advice now? Unless some people have been hibernating the past 18 months it's blindingly obvious what people can do to limit their risk.

Just own your own situation and stop looking to government for all your answers. We all know the drill by now. 

We do, but there are grey, ill-defined areas and given the penchant for imposing criminal sanctions, people want clear guidance.  Not unreasonable. 

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