snowman Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, snowman said: Why does this nonsense still persist?? "Isle of Man residents arriving on the Island who have travelled to any country outside of the Common Travel Area (Guernsey, Ireland, Jersey, and the United Kingdom) in the previous 10 days are required to isolate on arrival, either for 21 days or for 7 days if they agree to have a test on arrival and again on day 6, at a cost of £30. " https://www.gov.im/news/2021/jun/29/changes-to-onward-travel-to-the-isle-of-man-from-amber-list-countries/ Just seen on the 3FM news website that changes are being debated in Tynwald. Good..... Edited July 21, 2021 by snowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 From Manx Radio: 'Kelvin Kirk Patrick, a junior from the tax office has been brought in to make sure figures for the department of health are in line with the current data, after erroneous results have appeared on the IOM Governments Covid dashboard. In a brief interview today Kelvin irritated his feeling on the matter. He went onto say "With new technologies in place we're hoping to turn this problem on it's head and get it right for the Manx public." He starts with the department tomorrow, but has already tweeted his first results.' 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, snowman said: Just seen on the 3FM news website that changes are being debated in Tynwald. Good..... https://gef.im/2021/07/20/big-changes-proposed-to-border-and-iso-rules/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Annoymouse said: Well at least someone is doing what the Government has told them to do I suppose, carry on ignoring the numbers like a good boy. What good does it do obsessing over numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: What good does it do obsessing over numbers? If I hadn't obsessed over the numbers I wouldn't have 268 boxes of lateral flow tests stored in the attic. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Major Rushen said: Hot weather prevents covid spread … cold wether prevents covid spread Therefore it can be concluded that weather prevents covid spread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: Therefore it can be concluded that weather prevents covid spread Latest from Manx Radio.. On discovering that weather may reduce the spread of COVID-19 on Island, Health Minister David Ashford has announced an ambitious new scheme in co-operation with the Department of Infrastructure. This new scheme will ensure that the Island is furnished year round with a series of weather events. The Minister for Infrastructure was quoted saying “we have engineered a new multi-million pound scheme to ensure a consistent supply of weather to the Island. We will work hard with local businesses to ensure that weather is seasonal, we don’t want to be getting the snow machine out just yet”. Edited July 21, 2021 by AcousticallyChallenged Spelling 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Latest UK graph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Infections seem to be levelling if you consider the raw data (Not the 14 day cumulation) but could be just a blip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Although Manx Radio seem to be giving mixed messages today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Dave Hedgehog said: If I hadn't obsessed over the numbers I wouldn't have 268 boxes of lateral flow tests stored in the attic. With your 2000 toilet rolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Infections seem to be levelling if you consider the raw data (Not the 14 day cumulation) but could be just a blip I think the UK seem to be carrying on with a lot of measures, just with individuals choosing to, rather than it being mandated. Whereas here, we never really had any interventions like that outside of lockdown. So nipping into Tesco for example, you see maybe 10% wearing masks or keeping out of eachother's way. I think as we see the impact of nightclubs etc. figures will keep climbing over there. The rate of increase in hospital admissions had been slowing, but has climbed again with the last figures. Admissions in the UK are still up 37.9% on last weeks figures, despite having slowed briefly. Edited July 21, 2021 by AcousticallyChallenged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I've come to the conclusion that because our incompetent leaders were only able to choose lockdown or no lockdown with no such thing as interim measures or easing that many were asking for over the last 12 months, that businesses are being left in very tough positions in how to run their businesses. I'm confident with the 'national unlocking' and progressing as we are, but the last 12+ months of antics has left businesses ill-prepared for opening under any sort of COVID spread, unlike our neighbours and the Channel Islands. https://www.facebook.com/kurriesandsteaks/posts/4418031388227194 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: I think the UK seem to be carrying on with a lot of measures, just with individuals choosing to, rather than it being mandated. Whereas here, we never really had any interventions like that outside of lockdown. So nipping into Tesco for example, you see maybe 10% wearing masks or keeping out of eachother's way. I think as we see the impact of nightclubs etc. figures will keep climbing over there. The rate of increase in hospital admissions had been slowing, but has climbed again with the last figures. Admissions in the UK are still up 37.9% on last weeks figures, despite having slowed briefly. With regard to UK hospital admissions I feel a bit of context is required. The numbers seem high but are they? In July 2019 there were 576,000 unplanned (i.e. not elective operations, so these people were admitted with heart attacks, strokes, chest infections etc) hospital admissions in England, so about 18500 per day. Currently there are about 600 covid admissions per day in the UK, which is predominantly England but a slightly bigger base. That's about 3% of the total. We're not distinguishing between 'admitted with' and 'admitted because of' here. Given the known prevalence of test positive covid is in the region of 1%, it's not entirely surprising if of the expected 18000+ daily admissions a few hundred test positive for covid. The cases are growing, but does it matter (on a population, not individual level) if not many are really ill with it? Discuss. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, wrighty said: With regard to UK hospital admissions I feel a bit of context is required. The numbers seem high but are they? In July 2019 there were 576,000 unplanned (i.e. not elective operations, so these people were admitted with heart attacks, strokes, chest infections etc) hospital admissions in England, so about 18500 per day. Currently there are about 600 covid admissions per day in the UK, which is predominantly England but a slightly bigger base. That's about 3% of the total. We're not distinguishing between 'admitted with' and 'admitted because of' here. Given the known prevalence of test positive covid is in the region of 1%, it's not entirely surprising if of the expected 18000+ daily admissions a few hundred test positive for covid. The cases are growing, but does it matter (on a population, not individual level) if not many are really ill with it? Discuss. You're spot on with that. Well put. It doesn't matter if people aren't seriously ill. Once everyone has had the chance of being double jabbed the next step will be carrying on normal life with no iso if positive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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