the stinking enigma Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 20 minutes ago, Danoo said: Restrictions are being put in place as they are reacting to an emerging situation. That's what government's do. Why does the public need 'Infection Control' advice now? Unless some people have been hibernating the past 18 months it's blindingly obvious what people can do to limit their risk. Just own your own situation and stop looking to government for all your answers. We all know the drill by now. Is that the government official line there? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747-400 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 17 hours ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: They have to vote on it tomorrow. Going to be quite interesting if the majority of members don't agree with Speaker. Especially since he is then asking him to vote for him to be President as the next item. Perhaps hoping he would score some points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 33 minutes ago, Danoo said: Restrictions are being put in place as they are reacting to an emerging situation. That's what government's do. Why does the public need 'Infection Control' advice now? Unless some people have been hibernating the past 18 months it's blindingly obvious what people can do to limit their risk. Just own your own situation and stop looking to government for all your answers. We all know the drill by now. Good governments and good governance means effective preplanning and clarity. Not u-turning every 5 minutes depending on the lates populist headline. Yesterday was ridiculously named 'Freedom Day' but some people now have egg on their faces. By the way - Infection Control is what it is all about isn't it? Managing Infections in and out of hospital is a specialist area that requires more expertise on show than we have at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoo Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 minute ago, Apple said: Good governments and good governance means effective preplanning and clarity. Not u-turning every 5 minutes depending on the lates populist headline. Yesterday was ridiculously named 'Freedom Day' but some people now have egg on their faces. By the way - Infection Control is what it is all about isn't it? Managing Infections in and out of hospital is a specialist area that requires more expertise on show than we have at the moment. But in a small community like on the island you have to give yourself the bandwidth to change policy easily. Why wouldn't you? We shouldn't involve ourselves with the pantomine across the water, we have our own situation to contend with. I'd say our elected representatives and senior civil servants are battle weary, as we all are to a certain extent, from the past 18 months. There will be infighting and differences of opinion about how we move forwards. It's not surprising things don't look as slick as the stately press conferences we had last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoo Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 14 hours ago, code99 said: The problem is that when the nation’s leadership is prone to be both cowardly and hypocritical, it is sometimes difficult to judge whether they are being inept or just too ‘occassionally’ erring. Not only they appear to be incapable of making the right decisions, what is even more galling is that their personal insecurities/egos seem to be preventing them from taking advice from those who are capable and competent. The ‘Dr Glover fiasco’ seems to be a blueprint for how this beleaguered government deals with tough issues (they appointed EAG and evidently took no notice of their opinions). They opened up the borders and then they hide themselves behind Zoom, whilst the rest of us are meant to be living with (lower) risks associated with Covid…, but it does not seem to be low enough for them personally. That said, I suspect ultimately it is our collective responsibility as voters for electing the wrong politicians. Hope we, the GMP, will do a better job next time. We can only do a better job if there are better candidates put forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) 103 (211?) today ETA fortunately today’s 103 is down 133 on yesterday’s 95 though Edited July 20 by The Old Git 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 15 minutes ago, The Old Git said: 103 (211?) today ETA fortunately today’s 103 is down 133 on yesterday’s 95 though It's actually beyond laughable. A bit like Miranda Hart. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 New positive cases = 2325 - 2114 = 211 Increase in active cases = 1104 - 893 = 211 (There almost certainly will be some nominally recovered cases as there were single figure new ones 14 days ago but no one seems competent to do the calculations). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 You just know that rather than some massive conspiracy it is just that the one person in Gov who knows how to properly update Power BI is on holiday for a fortnight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Things seem to be progressing nicely, are we meeting our projected forecasts yet? I’d like to see what plans they have in place and what the trigger points are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 14 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: You just know that rather than some massive conspiracy it is just that the one person in Gov who knows how to properly update Power BI is on holiday for a fortnight Well you suspect that may be part of it, but they must also be the only person in government who has a pocket calculator, otherwise someone could have worked out the figures as above. (They must be so relieved to have stopped the daily press conferences) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 5 hours ago, Danoo said: We shouldn't involve ourselves with the pantomine across the water, we have our own situation to contend with. I agree to some extent. HQ said this morning that we will have to wait to see what they say about us giving children the vaccination. Don't forget, the UK controls the supply.😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cissolt Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 9 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Well you suspect that may be part of it, but they must also be the only person in government who has a pocket calculator, otherwise someone could have worked out the figures as above. (They must be so relieved to have stopped the daily press conferences) It may be the same person calculating the benefits claims that was before the court a few weeks ago. Why is it a manual process? The form should be dynamically updating the fields.....it's only excel with a fancy image on the front 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, Annoymouse said: Things seem to be progressing nicely, are we meeting our projected forecasts yet? I’d like to see what plans they have in place and what the trigger points are. They’ve admitted there’s no modelling or calculation behind it. I would suspect that rate of hospital admissions is their only real metric, and that may be arbitrary figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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