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3 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

People are going out of their way to get tested because they want to do what they see as being the responsible thing to do. 

That blows your theory out of the water with nearly a thousand people a day presenting themselves to be swabbed at the grandstand. 

Less than 200 by this time next week I reckon and most of those will be travel

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44 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

The problem also is driven by the major employers. Many have invoked WFH leaving a lot of places with no trade anyway ... This isn’t back to normal at all. 

Mostly working from home, for many companies and occupations is a permanent change.

It's a shift which also means being able to recruit outside of an immediate geographical area.

From now on WFH will be normal for many.

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55 minutes ago, wrighty said:

Define symptomatic. Probably everyone, covid positive or not, has had symptoms of some sort over the past week or two. Headache, bit of a sniffle, coughed a couple of times, sneezy around grass cuttings…

75% is very high, and if true suggests an even bigger number of positives out there who are not being tested and are asymptomatic. 

Is there possibly something else doing the rounds at the moment? 

I know of 3 separate people who have come down with a cough/flu type thing. They did an LFT (negative) but 2 had a PCR (negative). 

 

Now they're back up and alright

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Living with it to me is all about doing your own risk assessment, that is not going back to normal.  That was when most people didn't have to risk assess their own susceptibility to an infectious disease. 

Anyone remember the impact of AIDS and how that changed what was normal?  There was a huge change in sexual practices, mainly using condoms and it is almost a given that despite using some other form of birth control, condoms are still used from an infection control angle.  That is living with it. 

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50 minutes ago, cheesypeas said:

.....those figures someone posted about Israel earlier can't be right can they? More cases in folks jabbed than un-jabbed? Hopefully someone got their spreadsheet headers mixed up.

I haven't had the time to reanalyse the figures as I'd have to do so from scratch and I'm not sure what periods they are using.  But apart from anything else I suspect they are including infections immediately after vaccination or after only one shot.

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5 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

I haven't had the time to reanalyse the figures as I'd have to do so from scratch and I'm not sure what periods they are using.  But apart from anything else I suspect they are including infections immediately after vaccination or after only one shot.

A quite comprehensive 3 minute read, Roger...

https://m.jpost.com/health-science/coronavirus-in-israel-what-do-we-know-about-the-143-hospitalized-people-674508

 

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The concise definition of living with the virus MF style.

‘Whine like fuck that the Government should do more & spunk more cash’

Take your own responsibility ffs & deal with it.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, quilp said:

Those are the sort of figures I would expect to see for hospitalisations and deaths, but the query I had was over infection where vaccination should have some effect - even if it doesn't provide the complete protection some imagine.

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55 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Anyone remember the impact of AIDS and how that changed what was normal?  There was a huge change in sexual practices, mainly using condoms and it is almost a given that despite using some other form of birth control, condoms are still used from an infection control angle.  That is living with it. 

 

11 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

The concise definition of living with the virus MF style.

‘Whine like fuck that the Government should do more & spunk more cash’

Take your own responsibility ffs & deal with it.

 

6 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

They love spunking cash as you put it. From chewing gum machines to promenades. 

Gladys has provided the answer. Condoms to stop government spunking cash

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12 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

'Whine like fuck that the Government should do more & spunk more cash’

Have you ever wondered where money comes from, what it is? This article is about the British economy - of which the IOM is a part:

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/quarterly-bulletin/2014/q1/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy

If there were any shortage of money on the IOM, then that would only be about how the IOM is currently set up relative to the UK. But there isn't.

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2 hours ago, Roxanne said:

What did you think would happen Thommo? Did you think we would lift all restrictions at a time when only 50% of the population were double jabbed and when the Delta variant was making its way over here due to the relaxation of the border rules and nothing would happen apart from us all ‘going back to fucking normal’? 

Please, I’m genuinely interested to know what you thought would happen and also why you’re so surprised that the virus is running rampant and people (employed and otherwise) are dropping like flies. 

Maybe I'm just naive. From what I can see the vaccine is doing its job stopping people getting so sick they need hospital treatment and putting pressure on the hospital, we have what 2000 known cases and 6 people in hospital compared to the start of this when we had around 5/600 cases and deaths in the 20s if I remember correctly. I don't see why it's not being treated like other viruses you get sick stay home and recover, if you're not sick go to work all this testing to find 'cases' is a never ending loop

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@ Thommo2010 

Wait until the massive rate of infection in the island has had time to get properly dug in.

The hospital is going to be overwhelmed, especially as we seem to have an influx of bikers and that, quite shockingly, the mountain Road has A RACING LINE, of rubber left on the road.

We get a racing line of rubber when we have races but we are not having races so it can only be the influx of bikers with soft racing type tires laying this track.

I cross the mountain several times a day and I am seeing very little Policing of the crazy speeds I am having bikers coming at me on the wrong side of the road.

Never mind Covid overwhelming the hospital, when the inevitable happens and a half cut biker wipes out  a family traveling in the opposite direction we are totally screwed re bed spaces.

P.S. Even if you totally disagree with my views on the islands Covid "Mitigations" 🙂 please tell me how a racing line is getting laid on the mountain with fully 2 way open roads?

Are the Police failing in their duty to protect other road users?

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Latest figures:

'Investigated cases':  3332 - 3218 = 114 (Increase in cases)

Active cases: 2048 - (1981 -  (1280 - 1233) [Recovered]) 

                        = 2048 - 1981 + 47  = 114 (New cases before taking off recoveries)

Official new cases = 92

The increase in tests seems low 94,009 - 93,364 = 645, especially when yesterday's figures said there were 803 tests booked.

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