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2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

I haven't had the time to reanalyse the figures as I'd have to do so from scratch and I'm not sure what periods they are using.  But apart from anything else I suspect they are including infections immediately after vaccination or after only one shot.

The numbers are for the period 27/06 - 17/07, and they are for cases 20 days after the 2nd dose.

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7 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

@ Thommo2010 

Wait until the massive rate of infection in the island has had time to get properly dug in.

The hospital is going to be overwhelmed, especially as we seem to have an influx of bikers and that, quite shockingly, the mountain Road has A RACING LINE, of rubber left on the road.

We get a racing line of rubber when we have races but we are not having races so it can only be the influx of bikers with soft racing type tires laying this track.

I cross the mountain several times a day and I am seeing very little Policing of the crazy speeds I am having bikers coming at me on the wrong side of the road.

Never mind Covid overwhelming the hospital, when the inevitable happens and a half cut biker wipes out  a family traveling in the opposite direction we are totally screwed re bed spaces.

P.S. Even if you totally disagree with my views on the islands Covid "Mitigations" 🙂 please tell me how a racing line is getting laid on the mountain with fully 2 way open roads?

Are the Police failing in their duty to protect other road users?

Where abouts is this racing line exactly?

Clearly, the police are doing their duty if we're not seeing a rise in the rate of accidents on the mountain.

Speculating that all the bikers are going to all crash and overwhelm the hospital is getting a bit silly.

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7 hours ago, AlanShimmin said:

Expected by whom? You? 

 

They'll throw the island into lockdown way before it reaches capacity.

Expected by calibrated SEIR model, I am just the messenger. We assume there was not some unknown zero ground before this event:

https://www.gov.im/news/2021/jun/27/important-message-for-students-at-st-ninians-high-school/

Rest straight verbatim out of SPI-M playbook. Lot people want to know who I am, as if it effects the mathematics, and with regard to that posted this:

https://sites.google.com/webcabcomponents.com/seir-model-of-iom-natural-wave/who-i-am-and-why-did-i-produce-these-models?authuser=0

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35 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

P.S. Even if you totally disagree with my views on the islands Covid "Mitigations" 🙂 please tell me how a racing line is getting laid on the mountain with fully 2 way open roads?

Are the Police failing in their duty to protect other road users?

I haven't had a look but one of the things about most of the Mountain Road is that you can see quite a way ahead. Perhaps people are taking the 'racing line' in places that it's safe to do so? In this heat it wouldn't take long for tyres to be shedding rubber which we wouldn't notice in normal tempertures. 

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9 hours ago, Ramseyboi said:

Hope it’s packed in Port Erin all weekend.  Any other mask free events I can take the 3 different sets of friends and family currently here spending their money to?

I say crack on if youngish and not group 4 (and maybe 6). I would not be taking my 80yo father down the pub to get tanked up for next weeks. Told him best to Netflix and chill with misses for few weeks. But appropriate it completely his choice if he chooses to do otherwise.   

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1 minute ago, BenFairfax said:

I say crack on if youngish and not group 4 (and maybe 6). I would not be taking my 80yo father down the pub to get tanked up for next weeks. Told him best to Netflix and chill with misses for few weeks. But appropriate it completely his choice if he chooses to do otherwise.   

Just no.

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4 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

Could the ~200 difference be cancelled day 9 and day 13 tests?

It shouldn't be because these are Friday's figures and the changes didn't come in till later in the day.  It's possible they cancelled them anyway on the grounds that they weren't going to take any notice of democracy.

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1 minute ago, BenFairfax said:

No to what. If you worried about blanket lockdown I assume you there is no political appetite for that.

You referenced an 80 year old, and 'Netflix and Chill'. 

Are you trying to summon a demon or open a portal to hell?

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3 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

You referenced an 80 year old, and 'Netflix and Chill'. 

Are you trying to summon a demon or open a portal to hell?

He's more into the ballroom dancing scene. Like doing bit DIY and gardening, and generally chilling out. I just gave my 2 cents, naturally anyone can choose the risk they wish to take. Imposing risks onto others another issue, and gets bit complex, and that topic not my thing (ask @wrighty ). I just saying I saw through my 'not completely clear math's binoculars' (that models for you) that a decent storm is coming. CoMIN message from start either been hide under the bed (i.e. lockdown) or do anything. People being more granular and considering their own situation, is not being clearly communicated. Dr H did say COVID risk 80yo 2+2 is roughly same as 50yo unvaccinated.

There is a question on Nobles capacity, which I do not know all details, but I think someone in Manx Care should is doing the "detailed modelling" Dr H is a sceptic of. 

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1 hour ago, Boris Johnson said:

@ Thommo2010 

Wait until the massive rate of infection in the island has had time to get properly dug in.

The hospital is going to be overwhelmed, especially as we seem to have an influx of bikers and that, quite shockingly, the mountain Road has A RACING LINE, of rubber left on the road.

We get a racing line of rubber when we have races but we are not having races so it can only be the influx of bikers with soft racing type tires laying this track.

I cross the mountain several times a day and I am seeing very little Policing of the crazy speeds I am having bikers coming at me on the wrong side of the road.

Never mind Covid overwhelming the hospital, when the inevitable happens and a half cut biker wipes out  a family traveling in the opposite direction we are totally screwed re bed spaces.

P.S. Even if you totally disagree with my views on the islands Covid "Mitigations" 🙂 please tell me how a racing line is getting laid on the mountain with fully 2 way open roads?

Are the Police failing in their duty to protect other road users?

No.  They aren’t.

As evidenced by the fact that whatever they are or aren’t doing at the moment families aren’t being wiped out.

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1 hour ago, Boris Johnson said:

@ Thommo2010 

Wait until the massive rate of infection in the island has had time to get properly dug in.

The hospital is going to be overwhelmed, especially as we seem to have an influx of bikers and that, quite shockingly, the mountain Road has A RACING LINE, of rubber left on the road.

We get a racing line of rubber when we have races but we are not having races so it can only be the influx of bikers with soft racing type tires laying this track.

I cross the mountain several times a day and I am seeing very little Policing of the crazy speeds I am having bikers coming at me on the wrong side of the road.

Never mind Covid overwhelming the hospital, when the inevitable happens and a half cut biker wipes out  a family traveling in the opposite direction we are totally screwed re bed spaces.

P.S. Even if you totally disagree with my views on the islands Covid "Mitigations" 🙂 please tell me how a racing line is getting laid on the mountain with fully 2 way open roads?

Are the Police failing in their duty to protect other road users?

Make yourself a drink, go and sit in the garden, take a few deep breaths. You're not sounding very healthy with your repeated rants.

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