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5 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

Not surprised at all tbf. Just offering up the idea that it may be happening and "everyone being wiped out with Covid" is actually just some other crappy bug going round. 

There is absolutely a bug going around wiping out perfectly fit and healthy people under 40 for a few days.  Like a really heavy cold.

The ones I know who were convinced they must have the dread ‘vid tested negative despite having to spend a full day in bed.

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1 minute ago, Boris Johnson said:

Quoted for reference in about 3-4 weeks thanks. 🙂

We will all be dead apparently?

Who is going to post or read it?  The special forces that NATO airdrop in to clear all the corpses 😂

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2 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

Not surprised at all tbf. Just offering up the idea that it may be happening and "everyone being wiped out with Covid" is actually just some other crappy bug going round. 

Well except if that was happening we'd be seeing an awful lot more people testing negative (as we have previously).   We've seen such ridiculously positivity rates that it suggests that has changed or that the Lab is screwing things up.

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7 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

Not surprised at all tbf. Just offering up the idea that it may be happening and "everyone being wiped out with Covid" is actually just some other crappy bug going round. 

It was only tongue in cheek. I do agree though, it's like people have forgotten it's completely normal to feel a bit unwell every now and again without panicking.

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Just now, Ramseyboi said:

We will all be dead apparently?

Who is going to post or read it?  The special forces that NATO airdrop in to clear all the corpses 😂

No we wont all be dead, but there will be a huge problem at Nobles and god help any under 50s with a life/ family responsibilities who are unlucky enough to get really ill because of Covid, they are Fuc"ed

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1 minute ago, Boris Johnson said:

No we wont all be dead, but there will be a huge problem at Nobles and god help any under 50s with a life/ family responsibilities who are unlucky enough to get really ill because of Covid, they are Fuc"ed

We have now entered insanity. Or peak satire. Or both.

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14 minutes ago, Danoo said:

We have now entered insanity. Or peak satire. Or both.

Another that has not experienced Nobles at its Best?

ETA. There is an old saying for those of a religious persuasion, What Would Jesus Do?

I have a more rational verion of that "What would a first world country do" as in somewhere like an EU nation.

Does anyone really think that our governments total disregard for Covid is a better mitigation policy than say Germanys? Italy's? England's? Wales'? Even wee Jimmy Crankies?

Answers on the back of a  postcard to the cabinet office, which by the way is the most ridiculous name for a non entity.

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41 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

The risk from Covid to a double jabbed 80 year old is about the same as that to a non jabbed 50 year old.  
 

so basically zero risk, or a risk so negligible  that I would suggest it would be outweighed by the mental and wellbeing benefit of a pint in the pub with mates.

80yo 2+2, equating to risk 50yo unvaccinated was clearest idea of choices presented by Government so far. Risk tolerance personal thing, and people make their choices. 50yo not zero change of any of bad outcomes, we can look Google the numbers. It is what it is. As said if you decide to go to pub why not drink pint in garden if you an 80yo, after all hardly like weather now in normal for IoM.

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1 minute ago, Boris Johnson said:

No we wont all be dead, but there will be a huge problem at Nobles and god help any under 50s with a life/ family responsibilities who are unlucky enough to get really ill because of Covid, they are Fuc"ed

Personally, I reckon it'll be another weird month or so then it'll settle, a lot of the 18-25s getting infected are around due their second jabs. The schools are on holiday and it's gorgeous so anyone mingling is doing so outside if they're being sensible.

Being a bit prudent around supermarkets, pharmacies etc. is more likely than not to be the socially responsible approach.

The world will be watching us, if they have any sense, to see how things go. But I don't think we're by any stretch doomed.

It's the paralysed businesses who have really been left behind now.

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1 minute ago, BenFairfax said:

80yo 2+2, equating to risk 50yo unvaccinated was clearest idea of choices presented by Government so far. Risk tolerance personal thing, and people make their choices. 50yo not zero change of any of bad outcomes, we can look Google the numbers. It is what it is. As said if you decide to go to pub why not drink pint in garden if you an 80yo, after all hardly like weather now in normal for IoM.

This fella is mad as a box of frogs.

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27 minutes ago, wrighty said:

choosing a single seeding is inaccurate given we now have 1000s

I told you that, not you presenting it as your idea. Come on, time stamped on Manx Forums. Will start ringing Manx Care various medic I know Monday, and see what going on. Worse case is I will get as asbo for keep ringing.

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1 minute ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Personally, I reckon it'll be another weird month or so then it'll settle, a lot of the 18-25s getting infected are around due their second jabs. The schools are on holiday and it's gorgeous so anyone mingling is doing so outside if they're being sensible.

Being a bit prudent around supermarkets, pharmacies etc. is more likely than not to be the socially responsible approach.

The world will be watching us, if they have any sense, to see how things go. But I don't think we're by any stretch doomed.

It's the paralysed businesses who have really been left behind now.

Sorry to disappoint you but the world really isn't watching us. No-one is. 

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3 minutes ago, BenFairfax said:

I told you that, not you presenting it as your idea. Come on, time stamped on Manx Forums. Will start ringing Manx Care various medic I know Monday, and see what going on. Worse case is I will get as asbo for keep ringing.

So how is your model performing, several days in?

When I made my first model I also started with a single seeding, but as cases went up I adjusted it as time went on. Have you made any attempt to model the local growth in cases we have here so as to better estimate R and correct the current numbers to better play forwards, rather than sticking to R=3.35 and there was 1 case in mid-July?

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48 minutes ago, wrighty said:

About 0.4% risk of fatality. 
 

Just being 80 gives you an annual risk of death around 8%

That exactly what I said to old man, and that top slicing off biggest risks is the place to start. Is Manx Care, Dr H or whoever, going to produce the numbers as a presser so people can decide. If have a link you guys use in PH would help, I assume it be ONS.

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