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1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said:

It's that time of year.

From personal experience we have a six year-old in the family with sore throat and a cough. Tested negative for CV. 

Know a lady up the road with same symptoms (FWIW- long since double jabbed) also tested negative for CV.

Regarding family I posted about last weekend, the father tested positive for covid via both LFD & PCR.

He had a slight cough and loss of taste and smell for a few days and that's it. He is now testing negative via LFD but is in SI until Tuesday. 

He and his wife are 30+, not yet double jabbed. Wife has been fine and testing negative. 

Two young children (4yrs and 3mos) in the household have had coughs, runny noses and general malaise this past week, with negative LFD & PCR results. 

So yes, there's clearly a non-covid bug making the rounds.

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13 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Are you excluding the myriad of public health campaigns on the topics you’re mentioning? 

They give advice. They don't advocate for material consequences which some on here are talking about.

I have a personal dog in this fight as I am vaccinated but my daughter isn't. She had COVID a few months ago and so has natural immunity and antibodies at present so doesn't feel she needs to rush out and get the jab. I don't treat her like a leper and can see her point of view. I don't feel she is being selfish and she isn't doing it with a couldn't care less attitude for others so I'm fine with it.   

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13 minutes ago, Danoo said:

They give advice. They don't advocate for material consequences which some on here are talking about.

I have a personal dog in this fight as I am vaccinated but my daughter isn't. She had COVID a few months ago and so has natural immunity and antibodies at present so doesn't feel she needs to rush out and get the jab. I don't treat her like a leper and can see her point of view. I don't feel she is being selfish and she isn't doing it with a couldn't care less attitude for others so I'm fine with it.   

Aside from the banning of chewing tobacco, menthol cigarettes. Licensing restrictions on when and where alcohol can be sold and so forth. Sugar taxes and portion size reduction with the 100 calorie snacks campaign too. But aside from all that, you're right, nothing material.

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36 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

People cite personal choice and stuff when it comes to not getting jabbed, like that woman organising the petition and protest outside tynwald.

It's generally personal choice whether or not you strut around reeking of BO. That is your prerogative. However, you will be imposing that on those around you, and may well be ostracised as a result of your choices.

Plus, the 'do your research' lot tend to not have any research background at all. Scientific research is something you spend years learning to do, with peer review and learning from other researchers the techniques for producing good science.

 

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5 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Aside from the banning of chewing tobacco, menthol cigarettes. Licensing restrictions on when and where alcohol can be sold and so forth. Sugar taxes and portion size reduction with the 100 calorie snacks campaign too. But aside from all that, you're right, nothing material.

They should only be allowed to sell chocolate digestives singly. Those things are more addictive than black tar heroin.

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1 hour ago, Danoo said:

So we should ration cancer treatment for example against people who drink heavily or smoke like a chimney, both medically acknowledged and proven to increase your risks of developing cancer. Both of these groups have chosen to take a lifestyle choice which is within their control, knowing the risks it entails and the likely unnecessary burden on the health service at the expense of others who choose not to engage in those practices. 

I said nothing about not treating people who choose not to have the vax. 

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51 minutes ago, Danoo said:

They give advice. They don't advocate for material consequences which some on here are talking about.

I have a personal dog in this fight as I am vaccinated but my daughter isn't. She had COVID a few months ago and so has natural immunity and antibodies at present so doesn't feel she needs to rush out and get the jab. I don't treat her like a leper and can see her point of view. I don't feel she is being selfish and she isn't doing it with a couldn't care less attitude for others so I'm fine with it.   

That's fine, providing she doesn't complain about travel restrictions being placed on her as discriminatory.

ETA and has the jab when offered.

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10 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Peston there, taking something true but not providing the correct context, making things appear more alarming than they actually are 

No way. Peston would NEVER do that...

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27 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

A positive is a positive... what does it bloody matter if its a reinfection?

Vaccine efficacy? Were the re-infections in people with both jabs, one or none at all..? Which vaccine was used, etc...

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