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14 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

So who’s buying up all the bog roll then? 

I would imagine that it’s probably people listening to the same hardcore of people who have been forecasting a lockdown on social media for over a week even when it’s clear that we won’t be having one. 

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1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

All these ruddy old people not choosing to keel over at 60, selfish really isn't it? How dare they choose keep on kicking into their 80s and beyond.

You're still at it!  There was absolutely no inference of 'ageism' in the original post, just your fantasist interpretation.  Do you distort everything in your world to fit your concept of reality?

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Today's bulletin from the Wonderful World of Manx Government Maths:

'Investigated cases':  3592 - 3332  = 260 (Increase in cases)

Active cases: 2308 - (2048 -  (1280 - 1280) [Recovered]) 

                        = 2308 - 2048 + 0  = 260 (New cases before taking off recoveries)

Official new cases = 152

As yesterday the investigated and active case increases agree - they then produce a figure for new cases that is massively lower.

Note that this can't be a difference in timing which is what they are claiming, because that would produce differences in both directions that would average out over time - cases not included today would be reported tomorrow and so on.  Instead the 'new' cases reported are always very considerably lower. 

The increase in tests again seems low (94,636 - 94,009 = 627), and below capacity.  This gives a daily positivity rate of over 40%.  This is bonkers.

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3 minutes ago, Utah 01 said:

You're still at it!  There was absolutely no inference of 'ageism' in the original post, just your fantasist interpretation.  Do you distort everything in your world to fit your concept of reality?

Christ.

I was simply pointing out that tarring them all with the lifestyle brush isn't quite accurate.

I am clearly past it, deluded and ready to be put out to pasture.

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This is doing the rounds on LinkedIn:

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Imagine being born in 1900. When you are 14 years old World War I begins and ends when you are 18, with 22 million dead.

Shortly after the world pandemic, flu called ′′ Spanish ", killing 50 million people. You go out alive and free, and you are 20 years old.

Then at the age of 29 you survive the global economic crisis that started with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange causing inflation, unemployment and hunger.

Nazis come to power at 33.

You are 39 when world war 2. begins and it ends when you are 45 during the Holocaust (Shoah), 6 million Jews die. There will be a total of more than 60 million dead.

When you're 52 the Korean war begins.

When you are 64, the Vietnam war begins and ends when you are 75.

A baby born in 1985 believes his grandparents have no idea how hard life is, and survived several wars and disasters.

A boy born in 1995 and 25 today believes that the end of the world when his Amazon package takes more than three days to arrive or if he doesn't exceed 15 likes for his posted photo on Facebook or Instagram.

In 2020., many of us live in comfort, have access to various sources of entertainment at home and often have more than needed. But people complain about everything. They have electricity, phone, food, hot water and a roof over their heads.

None of this existed. But humanity survived much more serious circumstances and never lost the joy of life.

Maybe it's time to be less selfish, stop whining and crying 👍

 

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5 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Today's bulletin from the Wonderful World of Manx Government Maths:

'Investigated cases':  3592 - 3332  = 260 (Increase in cases)

Active cases: 2308 - (2048 -  (1280 - 1280) [Recovered]) 

                        = 2308 - 2048 + 0  = 260 (New cases before taking off recoveries)

Official new cases = 152

As yesterday the investigated and active case increases agree - they then produce a figure for new cases that is massively lower.

Note that this can't be a difference in timing which is what they are claiming, because that would produce differences in both directions that would average out over time - cases not included today would be reported tomorrow and so on.  Instead the 'new' cases reported are always very considerably lower. 

The increase in tests again seems low (94,636 - 94,009 = 627), and below capacity.  This gives a daily positivity rate of over 40%.  This is bonkers.

The figures came out around 1pm. No idea how they’re measuring time periods, if at all. 

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32 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

So who’s buying up all the bog roll then? 

The bog roll isn’t getting delivered to the shops because people are still getting tested and ending up having to isolate.

In the Bridge in Douglas this afternoon.

Sign on door saying short staffed, please be patient.

No bitter.

No orange juice

No lime

Only fraught lager was carling.

Guiness  remains available which is good as we all know “guiness is good for you” and it is my main way of keeping strength up.

People need to just stop being tested and ending up in isolation and then we can get back to normal ASAP.

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18 minutes ago, The Old Git said:

The figures came out around 1pm. No idea how they’re measuring time periods, if at all. 

There a least consistent though .  Mind blowing that such an important issue has been  wrong everyday and cause so much confusion . 

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32 minutes ago, Utah 01 said:

...nor are you going to die by being near someone with CV for a few minutes.

Or in fact living in the same house as them and sharing a bed as is being shown in thousands of houses all over the island every day.

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32 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Today's bulletin from the Wonderful World of Manx Government Maths:

'Investigated cases':  3592 - 3332  = 260 (Increase in cases)

Active cases: 2308 - (2048 -  (1280 - 1280) [Recovered]) 

                        = 2308 - 2048 + 0  = 260 (New cases before taking off recoveries)

Official new cases = 152

As yesterday the investigated and active case increases agree - they then produce a figure for new cases that is massively lower.

Note that this can't be a difference in timing which is what they are claiming, because that would produce differences in both directions that would average out over time - cases not included today would be reported tomorrow and so on.  Instead the 'new' cases reported are always very considerably lower. 

The increase in tests again seems low (94,636 - 94,009 = 627), and below capacity.  This gives a daily positivity rate of over 40%.  This is bonkers.

Why is this bonkers?

It’s everywhere.  Most of the island have it.  We all know this.

Most people aren’t even showing a single symptom.  A very, very small number are slightly ill.  

A tiny number are ill and requiring a stint in hospital.  Some of these are because of COVID, some just happen to need a stint in Nobles whilst being one of the thousands of us who are infected.

We are letting it run through a largely protected population at the best possible time (summer, start of school Holidays) and so far other than some issues with excessive numbers isolating (most of whom aren’t ill to a point that they couldn’t be working) and which will be resolved in the next week or so as news rules filter through there are no problems.

What is bonkers about the above whilst also allowing locals to travel pretty much unhindered and a bit of a boost to the economy by letting double jabbed in?

Bring on the removal of all remaining restrictions and isolation rules and let people decide themselves if they are fit to be out or not.

I can’t think of a better time to just crack on

 

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8 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

Or in fact living in the same house as them and sharing a bed as is being shown in thousands of houses all over the island every day.

Data or speculation?

You've got two factors in direct competition. Delta is 64% more transmissible in the household than Alpha.  https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93351

But, even after the first dose, your odds of passing it on are 40-50% lower, but, the caveat is, this study is from pre-Delta data. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2107717

I don't think there's been a tick box category in the data for whether people share a bed. If you've got a study with that data, please do share.

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1 hour ago, Gladys said:

How do you know who is who?

just the same as you don't now,    and what of the unvaccinated who cannot have the jab for genuine medical reasons ?  do they get to travel or not ?  will they be differentiated from the abstainers ?   we don't have all this shit with who's had a flu vaccine 

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