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5 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Our official line seems to have become in the last few months borders open next March. We seem to have no intention of investing into more proactive testing and no intention of even staffing up the coronavirus team so that more proactive checks can be done on those in self isolation so the process still remains largely voluntary. So the official line seems to be - do nothing it’s too much effort to do anything else and we might get criticized. It’s what the IOM public sector has lived by for 30 years now. 

Pretty much 100%.

Lets stick a couple of nurses in a scrutineering bay up the Grannie & erect a few barriers.

Test the odd key worker & we can ride this out until 2024.

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Can you guys start a separate thread titled "Jersey is ace - oh no it isn't" and leave this one to a discussion on IOM and the coronavirus?

...and I so wanted a long illustrious career at the DHSC   I run my own company so my involvement with the DHSC to set up and keep the COVID19 lab running wasn't exactly in the professional caree

I'll put a big disclaimer here that I'm not the person who decides who gets tested and when.  Saying that, I am a scientist who understands that if you test someone on the day they arrive and the

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1 hour ago, Apple said:

Operation Moonshot.

In the UK, they are looking at 500,000 tests a day by the end of October. 

Predicting system of swabs or saliva and can turn round results in 90 or even 20 minutes, millions of test processed every day.

Could be ready by Spring next year and would help to avoid another lockdown.

BMA dubious.

Taken from BBC news.


So, we will have wait for a vaccine and / or a new system of testing, unless something else happens. Can't really see us doing anything drastically different from the UK till then.

Should be called operation smoke and mirrors. The news this morning were saying this could cost 100 billion to implement.

With tests giving out false positives and negatives how reliable will it be?

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5 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

Pretty much 100%.

Lets stick a couple of nurses in a scrutineering bay up the Grannie & erect a few barriers.

Test the odd key worker & we can ride this out until 2024.

The more you don’t test the more likely it is that we stay “Covid free”

Be interesting to see how many pay the £50 as even that is designed to encourage people not to ask to be tested. The more tested the more potential asymptotic cases will be thrown out of the system in covid free IOM. 

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2 hours ago, Banker said:

Whereas Jersey can do 2000 per day and Guernsey are building infrastructure to do similar for next phase.

whilst we can argue about when easing should start there should be no argument that IOM should be investing in infrastructure to be able to do similar.

also the lack of any real plan to get out of this is concerning to many on both sides of argument 

Jersey cannot process any in a day. They are processed in the uk. However, I understand they are building their own labs to cut testing time. Guernsey are increasing their ability, but delivery of the equipment has been delayed until end of September, according to your own link last week. 

Isle of Man more than doubled its testing ability during July / August according to Howie last Thursday. Wrighty even mentioned it a while ago on this thread. 

A link to Jersey's other restrictions was posted two pages ago. I suggest you actually look at what else is in place rather than stick you fingers in your ears and say test on arrival. 

You also said earlier that Jersey's pubs and restaurants were very busy. You are correct, in a social distancing, table service only kind of way

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55 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

Should be called operation smoke and mirrors. The news this morning were saying this could cost 100 billion to implement.

With tests giving out false positives and negatives how reliable will it be?

False positives would be huge, unnecessarily isolating huge swathes of the population and their immediate contacts. Operation pie in the sky.

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1 hour ago, Cambon said:

Jersey cannot process any in a day. They are processed in the uk. However, I understand they are building their own labs to cut testing time. Guernsey are increasing their ability, but delivery of the equipment has been delayed until end of September, according to your own link last week. 

Isle of Man more than doubled its testing ability during July / August according to Howie last Thursday. Wrighty even mentioned it a while ago on this thread. 

A link to Jersey's other restrictions was posted two pages ago. I suggest you actually look at what else is in place rather than stick you fingers in your ears and say test on arrival. 

You also said earlier that Jersey's pubs and restaurants were very busy. You are correct, in a social distancing, table service only kind of way

As I said every one else has a plan we have none

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22 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

 

I’m afraid it’s going to take more than few senior epidemiologists imparting their opinion before the fear & hysteria that has been generated by the media in the last six months can subside.

The flu is already killing more people on a daily basis than Covid within the UK but will go unreported as it just doesn’t carry the same wow factor.

Thankfully Brexit is back on the mainstream media agenda to deflect our attention to the next crisis the country faces.

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12 hours ago, Southfork said:

I don’t believe she is a biochemist. Her online biography states that she trained as a molecular microbiologist, developing diagnostic assays for use in a commercial/statutory testing lab and then moved into bioinformatics with the emergence of next-generation sequencing. Her research interests are said to involve genomic epidemiology, biodiversity informatics and improving metagenomic and metabarcoding methods for species detection. As I understand it biochemistry has more to do with the chemical reactions that happen within the body. Whereas Molecular Biology focuses more on the structure and the relationships between four molecules (proteins, lipids, carbohydrates and nucleic acids) in the body.

She is clearly a very bright lady nonetheless but does not seem to be a biochemist. 

So, I was indeed wrong. I credited her with the wrong title or qualification. I should also check what I post. :flowers:

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2 hours ago, thommo2010 said:

Should be called operation smoke and mirrors. The news this morning were saying this could cost 100 billion to implement.

With tests giving out false positives and negatives how reliable will it be?

Should be called "Operation More Bozo Bollox"

Somehow the "Track Trace Isolate" system is now the "NHS Track Trace Isolate" system so when that nice Keir Starmer took Bozo to task over it's growing failures Bozo could bluster how Starmer is not supporting our wonderful NHS etc etc rather than answer the question. Which is ironic from one of the many tories who voted down a 1% payrise for NHS staff.

As the weeks pass Bozo looks more and more out of his depth....

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I hear the best cure for covid is to

1. not read the papers,

2. don't watch the tv  and 

3. almost certainly take no notice of Manx Forums

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1 hour ago, P.K. said:

Should be called "Operation More Bozo Bollox"

Somehow the "Track Trace Isolate" system is now the "NHS Track Trace Isolate" system so when that nice Keir Starmer took Bozo to task over it's growing failures Bozo could bluster how Starmer is not supporting our wonderful NHS etc etc rather than answer the question. Which is ironic from one of the many tories who voted down a 1% payrise for NHS staff.

As the weeks pass Bozo looks more and more out of his depth....

If Bozo pissed himself he would be out of his depth!

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