gettafa Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dilligaf said: I don’t think the tourist industry could have been kept alive without massive subsidy. It was a victim of the availability of new inexpensive european holidays, with sunshine and cheap everything. The whole of Britain lost out, not just us, but we in the IOM mad3 it worse by hiking up prices so often. Aye, we had cheap stuff here. It's rarely mentioned or admitted to, but a big factor for the holiday industry was the cheap booze available on the Island. Oh, and all day pubs. For many that was paradise. In the 1980s, UK started afternoon pub hours so we lost out there, and we couldn't compete with cheap sangria etc in the sun. We just have to watch the situation in UK and see if there is anything we can offer people that they don't get at home. It looks like the continent, due to Covid and Brexit, is going to be a bit of a no-no. Edited September 10, 2020 by gettafa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Banker said: So why are Jersey doing it and Guernsey planning to do following Group B countries: Test on arrival with self-isolation until first test result is known (24 – 48 hours) and then a second test on Day 7 with passive surveillance until Day 14; Passive surveillance is as for Phase 5b. Obviously IOM IS risk adverse and others are taking a more balanced view of risks on a country or regions basis. assume our stance is why Chris Thomas is asking the questions next week Because Jersey is still in partial lockdown with social distancing and masks, etc. Guernsey had better do the same if they copy Jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, rachomics said: They have nicer weather than us and an economy that is more dependent on tourism. Actually, in winter when they get an easterly breeze, which is quite often, you really would rather be here! The tourism season in Jersey ends at the end of September. Most hotels close down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 hours ago, pongo said: Jersey's tourism sector represents something like 8 - 10 % of their economy. Massive compared with here. Problem is, that 8 - 10% is brought in by the best part of half the working population. Finance brings in the majority, employs a minority. As for whomever commented about HNWs choosing Jersey over IOM, Jersey only take in a handful a year. You cannot just walk in and buy, like here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Cambon said: Because Jersey is still in partial lockdown with social distancing and masks, etc. Guernsey had better do the same if they copy Jersey. They are not wearing masks in Jersey for Christ’s sake. Stop peddling lies to suit your agenda. They are socially distancing to 1m which as you full well know is pretty much normal living. If you can’t put a straight forward & valid argument together, don’t bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 "Takeaway deliver driver jailed for breaking isolation laws" https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/takeaway-deliver-driver-jailed-for-breaking-isolation-laws/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 hours ago, pongo said: That's an incredibly narrow definition of what we mean by markets. There are lots of other markets. I will say this again: nobody is saying that the local economy is doing well. The case being made by sensible people is that it is doing much better than it would be if we were still locked down. For that we can thank the measures which have been taken. Markets generally means stock markets but if you’re picking some random think like gold then you may find one thing booming, just admit you’re wrong. and actually you & cambon say the economy is doing well, your quote from yesterday! Theeconomy here is doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: "Takeaway deliver driver jailed for breaking isolation laws" https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/takeaway-deliver-driver-jailed-for-breaking-isolation-laws/ Let’s hope he wasn’t tested positive? Covid with with your Penang Curry Sir? Some track & trace job ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwebs Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 The draconian measures implemented in 1918/19 did not work. “Destroyer and Teacher”: Managing the Masses During the 1918–1919 Influenza Pandemic Appears to be 2010 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862334/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: "Takeaway deliver driver jailed for breaking isolation laws" https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/takeaway-deliver-driver-jailed-for-breaking-isolation-laws/ The hearing was told the restaurant owner had initially refused to make a statement to police, and customers who’d dealt with Dimitrov that night now had to be traced and might have to quarantine themselves. Little fucker should be banged up too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Nom de plume said: They are not wearing masks in Jersey for Christ’s sake. Stop peddling lies to suit your agenda. They are socially distancing to 1m which as you full well know is pretty much normal living. If you can’t put a straight forward & valid argument together, don’t bother. Really? When are you going to put your case forward as to how test on arrival and partial lockdown, which will cost a very good number of jobs, will have a positive effect on th economy. I have told you how it will negatively affect it. In Jersey, you wear masks in shops. One metre social distancing is WHO standard. Besides, that is a small part of their current measures. You are one telling half truths to suit your agenda, which can only be that you want to go on holiday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, gettafa said: The hearing was told the restaurant owner had initially refused to make a statement to police, and customers who’d dealt with Dimitrov that night now had to be traced and might have to quarantine themselves. Little fucker should be banged up too. He has been. Eight weeks quarantine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I thought this was a reasonably good break down of some statistics regarding Covid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Cambon said: Really? When are you going to put your case forward as to how test on arrival and partial lockdown, which will cost a very good number of jobs, will have a positive effect on th economy. I have told you how it will negatively affect it. In Jersey, you wear masks in shops. One metre social distancing is WHO standard. Besides, that is a small part of their current measures. You are one telling half truths to suit your agenda, which can only be that you want to go on holiday! More rubbish, you quoted 1000 job losses from testing on arrival and when challenged how you calculated that there was silence! Jersey have saved & created jobs by testing all arrivals which is probably why Guernsey are planning same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Cambon said: Really? When are you going to put your case forward as to how test on arrival and partial lockdown, which will cost a very good number of jobs, will have a positive effect on th economy. I have told you how it will negatively affect it. In Jersey, you wear masks in shops. One metre social distancing is WHO standard. Besides, that is a small part of their current measures. You are one telling half truths to suit your agenda, which can only be that you want to go on holiday! Holiday? Read back through the thread you absolute balloon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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