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20 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

When it comes to condescension and belittling you need to read 80% of your own posts in this thread fella 😂

Perhaps unlike you. I can remember what I have written in the last 24 hours. I'm not the one using childish names for vulnerable people.

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It’s been the topic of discussion at work for a while as the landscape has changed a little for those who are customer facing. 
usually, a bit of a cough wouldn’t mean someone calls in sick, they would lash some cough medication in them and crack on.

Now there is a worry that if they come into work, they might have covid and spread it around not to mention from a customers point of view they maybe worried that they will be infected by a staff member with a cough.

Sickness days are expected to rise as a result for those of us that can’t work from home is the bottom line.

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5 minutes ago, immortalpuppet said:

It’s been the topic of discussion at work for a while as the landscape has changed a little for those who are customer facing. 
usually, a bit of a cough wouldn’t mean someone calls in sick, they would lash some cough medication in them and crack on.

Now there is a worry that if they come into work, they might have covid and spread it around not to mention from a customers point of view they maybe worried that they will be infected by a staff member with a cough.

Sickness days are expected to rise as a result for those of us that can’t work from home is the bottom line.

Now there's a question that interests me. What proportion of the working population can do their job from home?

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11 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

As I said. I’m sorry for your loss when it comes to the covid rules and restrictions. You must be very disappointed that others can no longer be so controlled by irrational fear - but there is no real reason for you to lash out at people who welcome these changes. Perhaps you should treat this as a short period of mourning for what was before your life begins again. 

You are like a broken record. Back to the playground level attempt to belittle. It does not work.

I'd agree there's no reason to lash out. That's why I didn't. Indeed it is you who repeatedly try to mock those with different views.

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6 minutes ago, doc.fixit said:

Now there's a question that interests me. What proportion of the working population can do their job from home?

Thus not taking sick days and on paper having a much better record from a HR point of view or for those self employed & customer facing - lost revenue 

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I only wondered what the proportion of folk who can work from home is, that's all. IE, people who can't such as mechanics, dustbinmen, fishermen as opposed to those who can, generally people who normally work from an office.

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2 hours ago, Happier diner said:

What would your approach be? 

Mixed and dependant on an ever-changing situation.  That's why we need testing to continue and to be easy for people.  Without monitoring we don't know what the situation is.  And as I pointed out, the vulnerable can only be protected by the non-vulnerable who come in contact with them testing.

I wouldn't be trying to pretend the current outbreak isn't happening, which there's a tendency to - especially in England, which too many in the civil service mechanically copy.  Hospitalisation is rising towards 20,000 again there, not much under Spring 2020:

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It's not as serious as then with many fewer ICU admissions and deaths (indeed that partly why hospital numbers are high) but it still puts a big strain on the health service.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the numbers here rise above their current 10 next week, though probably dropping afterwards.  So spreading load is important.

Public health-wise I would have reintroduced masks on public transport and healthcare settings (and FFP2+ at that - medical professionals hate admitting they were wrong, don't they?).   Everything else 

I'd also have brought them in for schools long ago, though I realise that's a lost cause ("We can't make kids wear masks!", say the people who've been making them wear silly clothes for centuries).  Mainly because of the way looking after sick kids imposes on parents.

Both these would be fairly short term until cases drop, providing nothing new comes along.  To know that you need consistent testing of course.

But the most important thing is still vaccination.  Mercifully they have now announced that the second round of boosters is starting (though Hooper seems unaware that it had already, rightly, started for the immunocompromised).  There has been some criticism that those under 75 should also be included, perhaps down to 70 or even 60.  But I'd also be chasing up those not fully vaccinated - especially in the older age groups (about 20% of over-85s seem to be in this category).  We tend to think of the unvaccinated now as Heading-type oppositionists, but many may just need reassurance or have missed their chance and not know how to ask for another.

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9 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

I’m not belittling anyone although I think you might find you are and have consistently done in this thread. As I said I’m sorry for your loss with the 1st April looming it must be a very stressful time envisioning people you have no vicarious control over anymore doing what they want rather than what they’re told. 

I have no loss for you to be sorry about & as I've said I'm not stressed. It seems you are given your desire to keep saying the same thing repeatedly

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4 minutes ago, momo65 said:

I have no loss for you to be sorry about & as I've said I'm not stressed. It seems you are given your desire to keep saying the same thing repeatedly

I've had to block the wheelchair doctor bloke from Ramsey on Twitter who keeps scaremongering doomsday for 1st April in IOM.

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4 hours ago, offshoremanxman said:

Funny - I just assumed you live in a lead lined basement in a triple-layered hazmat suit. I understand your disappointment at people being handed their lives back. But you need to suck it up. 

Courtesy, that's all, both ways. 

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