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27 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said:

So, 4 in hospital being treated for Covid. This with nearly 2,000 infections being recorded per week, and probably as many if not more going undetected. In fact, if you use the ratio people in hospital with Covid, only 4/18 actually knew they had it (assuming that those being treated for other ailments were only discovered to be positive for Covid on admission). So, transposing that ratio to the general population, the number of infections on island at the moment is probably nearly 8,000 per week.

4 hospitalisations per 8,000 cases. No need to open the bunker just yet.

It's actually admitted for Covid, so some of the others may be being treated as well - it's just that they were admitted for something else.  It's usually about a week between symptoms and hospital admission if needed[1], so really these hospital numbers should be compared to last week's infections.

No need for panic as yet, but hospitalisation and possibly deaths won't have peaked yet from this and there needs to be careful monitoring.  There's a hint that figures may be dropping in the last few days reported, but it's too early to tell if it's a trend and as I say it won't stop hospitalisation rising.

 

[1]  The most recent data I could find are here, pre-Omicron, and it may be that this has changed.  Interestingly the delay seem largest with older (and so more vulnerable) patients.

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5 hours ago, Lxxx said:

When you say 'dose' do you mean actually being ill enough to be bedridden or just a diagnosis using one of those unreliable tests?

A cough so work asked me to test.   Turned out I was positive.  Could have happily carried on working but company policy is you can’t attend the workplace so had a lovely few unexpected days off walking, picnicking and cycling.

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After spending 3 years telling us all how at risk they are, it's now amazing to see how many old people are shuffling round Strand Street coughing into the air and blowing their snot rags all over the show. 

 

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36 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

After spending 3 years telling us all how at risk they are, it's now amazing to see how many old people are shuffling round Strand Street coughing into the air and blowing their snot rags all over the show. 

 

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It’s also amazing how many public sector workers are out & about with no symptoms but enjoying another 7 days off in sun on full pay !!

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2 minutes ago, Banker said:

It’s also amazing how many public sector workers are out & about with no symptoms but enjoying another 7 days off in sun on full pay !!

Could be wrong but a lot of workplaces are mandating that staff must not attend the office/workplace if they test positive. 

At the same time there are now no restrictions on going about your business. 

 

I have no issues with that, just wish people might take a bit more care with personal hygiene.

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24 minutes ago, Banker said:

It’s also amazing how many public sector workers are out & about with no symptoms but enjoying another 7 days off in sun on full pay !!

Same in private sector.  If company policy is not to go to work but there are no restrictions to general life what do you expect people to do?

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1 hour ago, 0bserver said:

it's now amazing to see how many old people are shuffling round Strand Street coughing into the air and blowing their snot rags all over the show. 

Cruise ship arrived, has it?

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13 minutes ago, Youaintseenme said:

Same in private sector.  If company policy is not to go to work but there are no restrictions to general life what do you expect people to do?

Be responsible?

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3 hours ago, HeliX said:

People have vulnerable relatives.

They do, we all do, in the main but.....

# They know the risks.

Its a free world, stop making relatives take precautions for their near and dear.

Helix, Don't you understand how far off the mark you are with your light touch to death and destruction via a motorbike "race" and your totally opposite acceptance /  opinion on Covid?

Maybe if we could glam up the deaths from Covid on the island?  Say, send the near dead from Covid to cannons to be splattered all over the bottom of Bray Hill? More sporting????

Would that make Covid deaths less or more acceptable to you? I am really struggling with your morality for a woke.

Generally as an island community that went totally OVER THE FUCKING TOP with locking up people for Covid "Offences" to SAVE LIFE.

We seen to have a very liberal attitude to the head removing, body splattering 5 gruesome deaths, and counting this year, that the TT organisers and fans  are responsible for

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

They do, we all do, in the main but.....

# They know the risks.

Its a free world, stop making relatives take precautions for their near and dear.

Helix, Don't you understand how far off the mark you are with your light touch to death and destruction via a motorbike "race" and your totally opposite acceptance /  opinion on Covid?

Maybe if we could glam up the deaths from Covid on the island?  Say, send the near dead from Covid to cannons to be splattered all over the bottom of Bray Hill? More sporting????

Would that make Covid deaths less or more acceptable to you? I am really struggling with your morality for a woke.

Generally as an island community that went totally OVER THE FUCKING TOP with locking up people for Covid "Offences" to SAVE LIFE.

We seen to have a very liberal attitude to the head removing, body splattering 5 gruesome deaths, and counting this year, that the TT organisers and fans  are responsible for

 

 

You've sure extrapolated a load of horseshit from me giving a second valid reason people are still using LFTs.

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42 minutes ago, Youaintseenme said:

Same in private sector.  If company policy is not to go to work but there are no restrictions to general life what do you expect people to do?

But if there’s no free tests available the non symptoms people will just go in & get on with it, the private sector one’s getting full pay won’t go in but the self employed, tradesmen will because no pay!

However I know a few larger private companies have been closely monitoring absences which will be taken into account for annual bonuses/pay rise 

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The reason Companies adopt these policies is mostly because having a shed load of people off at the same time is inconvenient at best, especially office workers who tend to share office equipment, phones etc and are generally confined in small spaces with inadequate ventilation it is easier to try and contain it by excluding a spreader.    Also if they insisted they came to work knowing they were positive and someone caught it and croaked or were really ill there would be culpability claims etc.  better safe than screwed.

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