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3 minutes ago, Cambon said:

The reason is if we have returning residents and visiting relatives, that is a lot more people coming through the border than just returning relatives. Add to that where are they going to isolate? Are the family going to isolate as well because you can be pretty sure social distancing will be out the window. 

I am for relatives being allowed to visit, but not until cases in the north west calm down a lot. 

Well returning residents can isolate in a house with 20 family members if they all live there who don’t need to isolate so what’s the difference with a son staying with parents? Answer- nothing 

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Can you guys start a separate thread titled "Jersey is ace - oh no it isn't" and leave this one to a discussion on IOM and the coronavirus?

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2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

Rather than cluttering up an entirely unrelated topic.

Apologies. It all started when someone compared Covid-19 to the Flu and er, that was likened to the cannabis/alcohol argument. 

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39 minutes ago, Banker said:

According to Manx Radio 402 have paid for tests after 7 days with 1 positive, therefore the other 2 must have been free tests maybe patient transfers 

How do you arrive at that?

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Non-residents aren't banned, there are plenty of routes for non-residents to get in if they need to come here.

I suppose the thinking is that non-residents will be more exposed to it in the UK, for obvious reasons, compared to residents who are popping over for a specific purpose and coming straight back.

Social distancing can't be enforced in the home. If a couple come over to see the grandkids they're going to be in the same house as people who are free to come and go. If the family with the grandkids all go across instead then they'll all have to isolate when they get back.

Maybe they're being too cautious, but non-residents coming here to visit isn't the same as residents going across to visit.

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2 minutes ago, tetchtyke said:

Social distancing can't be enforced in the home. If a couple come over to see the grandkids they're going to be in the same house as people who are free to come and go. If the family with the grandkids all go across instead then they'll all have to isolate when they get back. 

That’s the same is it is now for everyone so what’s the extra risk? There’s plenty already self isolating in shared housing. No checks being done of any kind. So why is it more risky if you’re not Manx than if you are? 

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3 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

How do you arrive at that?

Well 1 was positive from the 402 Paid tests and we have 3 so the other 2 were either showing symptoms or were patient transfers who can opt for the test at 7 days but don’t get charged.

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Just now, thesultanofsheight said:

That’s the same is it is now for everyone so what’s the extra risk? There’s plenty already self isolating in shared housing. No checks being done of any kind. So why is it more risky if you’re not Manx than if you are? 

It isn’t Wrighty said yesterday it’s irrelevant if rules followed 

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1 minute ago, Banker said:

Well 1 was positive from the 402 Paid tests and we have 3 so the other 2 were either showing symptoms or were patient transfers who can opt for the test at 7 days but don’t get charged.

Sorry, misread the first bit

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Just now, thesultanofsheight said:

That’s the same is it is now for everyone so what’s the extra risk? There’s plenty already self isolating in shared housing. No checks being done of any kind. So why is it more risky if you’re not Manx than if you are? 

Couple come here to see son, daughter in law and two grandkids. That's four people out in the community and two locked in the house.

Son, daughter in law and two grandkids go across to see the couple instead. That's zero people out in the community and four locked in the house.

So yes, it is different.

 

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20 minutes ago, tetchtyke said:

Couple come here to see son, daughter in law and two grandkids. That's four people out in the community and two locked in the house.

Son, daughter in law and two grandkids go across to see the couple instead. That's zero people out in the community and four locked in the house.

So yes, it is different.

 

But that’s 4 coming from UK as compared to 2 so there’s more chances of bringing it over!

also what about elderly residents who are unable to travel and want to see family who can’t visit?

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13 minutes ago, Banker said:

But that’s 4 coming from UK as compared to 2 so there’s more chances of bringing it over!

also what about elderly residents who are unable to travel and want to see family who can’t visit?

Why can’t older people travel?

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I’m starting to think about my return and how I’ll transit England and get on boat, least risk to self and others.

I’ll fill up with fuel in Spain before getting on ferry. Then no need to stop between Portsmouth and Heysham apart from a comfort break.

Ive a cabin on both the Cap Finistere and the Ben. Drive off Ben and straight home.

Ive thought about the test on day 7. As I arrive home over a weekend the test would be day 8 with results on day 9. Then there are still restrictions. I work from home, so there is no rush to get back into an office. I’ll probably give it a miss.

 

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We can’t keep relying on the Irish Sea.We need a robust but nuanced approach predicated on systems and protocols that work and that inspire public confidence.

 

(I'm not sue what that exactly means but it sounds rather good. I just saw it on Facebook)

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