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21 hours ago, Cambon said:

Because there will be virtually no tourists between now and April. If you bring in the 24 hour results now it will have a massive negative effect on the economy as 85,000 people go and spend elsewhere. 

Are you on drugs? there are people on this Island who have never left these shore's, do you think that all of a sudden there is going to be a mass exodus when the borders re-open? not a chance, the only people who are likely to travel will be due essential trip's eg Hospital/Business not shopping. Not sure you are aware but shopping can be done via the internet no need for travel to spend your money, I have been doing it successfully for year's you will have to try it, very relaxing.

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Can you guys start a separate thread titled "Jersey is ace - oh no it isn't" and leave this one to a discussion on IOM and the coronavirus?

...and I so wanted a long illustrious career at the DHSC   I run my own company so my involvement with the DHSC to set up and keep the COVID19 lab running wasn't exactly in the professional caree

I'll put a big disclaimer here that I'm not the person who decides who gets tested and when.  Saying that, I am a scientist who understands that if you test someone on the day they arrive and the

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1 hour ago, Banker said:

But that’s 4 coming from UK as compared to 2 so there’s more chances of bringing it over!

also what about elderly residents who are unable to travel and want to see family who can’t visit?

It doesn't really matter so much if they bring it over, because they'll be locked in their house for two weeks. They're also less likely to have it as they're not living and working in the UK.

As I said, there are exemptions available for people who *need* to travel here, including for compassionate reasons. But it is need, not want.

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12 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said:

Are you on drugs? there are people on this Island who have never left these shore's, do you think that all of a sudden there is going to be a mass exodus when the borders re-open? not a chance, the only people who are likely to travel will be due essential trip's eg Hospital/Business not shopping. Not sure you are aware but shopping can be done via the internet no need for travel to spend your money, I have been doing it successfully for year's you will have to try it, very relaxing.

That’s a typical Cambon made up scare story with no basis.Some don’t even leave their village!!

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1 minute ago, tetchtyke said:

It doesn't really matter so much if they bring it over, because they'll be locked in their house for two weeks. They're also less likely to have it as they're not living and working in the UK.

As I said, there are exemptions available for people who *need* to travel here, including for compassionate reasons. But it is need, not want.

They won’t be locked in for 2 weeks if they get a test, whether you’re in a place for a day or a year makes no difference to catching virus if you don’t take precautions 

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They won’t be locked in for 2 weeks if they get a test, whether you’re in a place for a day or a year makes no difference to catching virus if you don’t take precautions 

And if they get a test on day 7 we know they don't have it (unless they do, in which case the 14 days starts again!) so happy days. But even with the day 7 negative test you're still very restricted, you can't even use the bus.

The longer you are somewhere the more likely it is you will get unlucky and catch it. If you're living somewhere rather than visiting for a few days you're more likely to visit places where you'll catch it- shops, pubs, buses- and more likely to have done it more often. It doesn't mean they will catch it, and it doesn't mean you won't be unlucky and catch it on a day trip, but it's about probability.

You can argue that they're being too cautious and that allowing non-residents to quarantine would be fine. But you can't say it's no different, because it is different.

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23 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said:

Are you on drugs? there are people on this Island who have never left these shore's, do you think that all of a sudden there is going to be a mass exodus when the borders re-open? not a chance, the only people who are likely to travel will be due essential trip's eg Hospital/Business not shopping. Not sure you are aware but shopping can be done via the internet no need for travel to spend your money, I have been doing it successfully for year's you will have to try it, very relaxing.

Some people quite like the experience of going into shops

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There is virtually still a 14 days quarantine for people entering the Island which is good.   True you can take a test after 7 days and if negative you can then enjoy 7 days of very restricted movement which is very good.  I have put this as simply as I can for the benefit of Banker who seems incapable of ingesting the information available and just bangs on about what he wants.

 

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30 minutes ago, Banker said:

They won’t be locked in for 2 weeks if they get a test, whether you’re in a place for a day or a year makes no difference to catching virus if you don’t take precautions 

So, that hypothetical family of 4 has to shell out £200 ( if it’s possible - which it isn’t, see below and the link).

If they’ve arrived over the weekend they have to wait for a Monday and the results may not be available within the hopes for 24 hours. 
 

Then for between 4 and 6 days they can’t go to public indoor venues such as pubs, restaurants, cafes, theatres, gyms, swimming pools and nursing homes. Oh you May be able to return to work, if employer agrees and you aren’t in a public facing role ( not much good for a visitor ). You can’t even go and have a crab bap at Peel Breakwater cafe or an ice cream as al fresco dining is forbidden.

You can’t even use public transport.
 

Its not all that brilliant, even if you’re a resident.
 

BUT you are overlooking one important facet of the 7 day testing regime. It doesn’t apply to visitors. Only returning residents. Visitors have to do 14 days isolation.

https://covid19.gov.im/general-information/day-7-testing/

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9 minutes ago, hissingsid said:

There is virtually still a 14 days quarantine for people entering the Island which is good.   True you can take a test after 7 days and if negative you can then enjoy 7 days of very restricted movement which is very good.  I have put this as simply as I can for the benefit of Banker who seems incapable of ingesting the information available and just bangs on about what he wants.

 

7 day test only if returning resident. Not applicable to visitors 

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