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7 minutes ago, Apple said:

Newspapers at weekend full of reports that to be more effective the test  system needs for the telephone app to be linked to both tracking and  services, but the risk of people not complying or avoiding is too high, unless it can be tied to their own benefit by being allowed to  do things denied to those who don't comply......

Slippery slope.

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25 minutes ago, Apple said:

Newspapers at weekend full of reports that to be more effective the test  system needs for the telephone app to be linked to both tracking and  services, but the risk of people not complying or avoiding is too high, unless it can be tied to their own benefit by being allowed to  do things denied to those who don't comply......

Was talking to someone in the UK hospitality industry about this last week. Apparently there’s loads of people who won’t check-in at events and venues on the app. The reason? If they get found to be at a place where there’s an outbreak it’s 14 days off work so they can’t be arsed checking in to show they’ve been somewhere in the first place. They can’t force customers to check in either. Just advise them to. So it’s all largely a complete waste of time. And even after all that that BBC story says only 11% of those contacted self isolate anyway. 

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2 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Was talking to someone in the UK hospitality industry about this last week. Apparently there’s loads of people who won’t check-in at events and venues on the app. The reason? If they get found to be at a place where there’s an outbreak it’s 14 days off work so they can’t be arsed checking in to show they’ve been somewhere in the first place. They can’t force customers to check in either. Just advise them to. So it’s all largely a complete waste of time. 

Can't blame them. A bloke who rents a house off me is a self employed tradesman and can't afford 2 weeks off so has ditched his smart phone for the same reason. Now uses a Nokia brick to make sure he can pay the bills. I'm glad he does too. 

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4 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Was talking to someone in the UK hospitality industry about this last week. Apparently there’s loads of people who won’t check-in at events and venues on the app. The reason? If they get found to be at a place where there’s an outbreak it’s 14 days off work so they can’t be arsed checking in to show they’ve been somewhere in the first place. They can’t force customers to check in either. Just advise them to. So it’s all largely a complete waste of time. 

When I was in UK a few weeks ago, they were telling us to download the app but a lot of the time the download didn’t work!

In John Lewis cafe they were taking names & numbers manually so you could have given any name & number 

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4 minutes ago, Lxxx said:

Can't blame them. A bloke who rents a house off me is a self employed tradesman and can't afford 2 weeks off so has ditched his smart phone for the same reason. Now uses a Nokia brick to make sure he can pay the bills. I'm glad he does too. 

There’s loads at it. You can’t blame them either. It’s only when you’re prepared to act like some fucked up police state like here that something like that could work. This is where Burnham is right. If you can’t properly incentivize people to not work then don’t bother telling people they can’t go to work as people who need to work are just going to ignore everything anyway as they have no other option. 

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Sweden now one of the lowest mortality rates in Europe with a policy that was rounded on by many.

Their initial high death rates were down to large scale catastrophe in the care home sector.

No masks, no lockdowns, no SD.

But, but, but .... everybody lives miles away from each other.

But nothing.

Lets get on with it ffs.

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52 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

Sweden now one of the lowest mortality rates in Europe with a policy that was rounded on by many.

Their initial high death rates were down to large scale catastrophe in the care home sector.

No masks, no lockdowns, no SD.

But, but, but .... everybody lives miles away from each other.

But nothing.

Lets get on with it ffs.

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Sweden have loads of restrictions, including a ban on travelling there. They do have social distancing inside bars, restaurants, etc. They did not lock down. That is all. 

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4 minutes ago, Cambon said:

Sweden have loads of restrictions, including a ban on travelling there. They do have social distancing inside bars, restaurants, etc. They did not lock down. That is all. 

There's no point in trying to explain it Cambon. People have made up their minds and aren't willing to find out more. I'm fucking sick of it.

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8 minutes ago, Cambon said:

Sweden have loads of restrictions, including a ban on travelling there. They do have social distancing inside bars, restaurants, etc. They did not lock down. That is all. 

Sweden have not banned travel there , it’s only for non eu countries like most of Europe. Anyone from UK or Iom can travel there without quarantine.

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