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Can you guys start a separate thread titled "Jersey is ace - oh no it isn't" and leave this one to a discussion on IOM and the coronavirus?

Ratio of admissions to deaths is not that different, testing is obviously out due to the massive capacity increase like just about everywhere in the world.    The current UK situation is impact

It's a safe place right now because of the Manx people, not the Manx politicians. None of us want to be "the person who brought it back" so we isolate and make sure we don't transmit the virus by bein

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I was not being flippant. The local economy may well be okish but that is a small part of the treasury take. Ok I’ll add selling TVs and sofas to the list. If you really think a world recession will have no effect here then I think you are being naive. The other problem we have is that minus an effective vaccine the IOM is very exposed as it’s only option is isolation. How long do you think that is viable before people bale out. 

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Apart from sales of furniture, electrical equipment, coffee, shit clothing and the construction industry, what have the Romans ever done for us?

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34 minutes ago, hissingsid said:

I don’t think you have tried to get a tradesman lately, everyone I speak to is fairly happy so I think it is you that does not understand economics.

That's only because they can't squander it on foreign holidays!

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24 minutes ago, finlo said:

That's only because they can't squander it on foreign holidays!

Well, exactly.  At the moment the economy is working mostly as a closed system, the problem is that when the closed system eventually needs a top up from outside, there may not be much of an outside economy there. 

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4 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Well, exactly.  At the moment the economy is working mostly as a closed system, the problem is that when the closed system eventually needs a top up from outside, there may not be much of an outside economy there. 

And if there is, it’s not allowed in unless it isolates for 14 days

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2 hours ago, Gladys said:

Well, exactly.  At the moment the economy is working mostly as a closed system, the problem is that when the closed system eventually needs a top up from outside, there may not be much of an outside economy there. 

There is a veritable shitload of money swilling about on this Island.

I reckon the Island can economically outlive any other economy in the world.

Foreign hols and those fucking cruises are well off the menu for a few years at least. What they gonna spend it on? What?

 

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4 hours ago, John Wright said:

Again - the T&T apps aren’t worth the money spent on development, none of them, claimed world beating or not. Not enough people use install them, use them, switch on blue tooth, etc. Unless you go to South Korean extremes and have a very compliant population.

Exactly. So, the BBC reporting:

Victoria Derbyshire has said she would break the rule of six to enable her family to celebrate Christmas.
The BBC presenter said her family of seven knew the risks and would be "sensible" and buy a thermometer gun.
She told the Radio Times she felt irresponsible for considering it, but thought many others felt the same way.
Derbyshire has a family of four plus her mum, her mum's partner and her husband's dad. It is not clear if the rule of six will apply at Christmas.
"If the rule of six is still in place... we're breaking it to have the rule of seven. We just are," the journalist said.
"It's fine. We'll do it knowing what the risks are. We're not stupid.

Guess it only applies to a special few then.

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7 hours ago, John Wright said:

What happened to the results of the 10,000 antibody tests that were performed in July & August?

2,500 of them are now probably at risk again.

 

Figures for the UK from the BBC.

The Imperial College London team found the number of people testing positive for antibodies has fallen by 26% between June and September. They say immunity appears to be fading and there is a risk of catching the virus multiple times.

More than 350,000 people in England have taken an antibody test as part of the REACT-2 study so far.
In the first round of testing, at the end of June and the beginning of July, about 60 in 1,000 people had detectable antibodies.
But in the latest set of tests, in September, only 44 per 1,000 people were positive.
It suggests the number of people with antibodies fell by more than a quarter between summer and autumn.
"Immunity is waning quite rapidly, we're only three months after our first [round of tests] and we're already showing a 26% decline in antibodies," said Prof Helen Ward, one of the researchers.
 

 

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7 hours ago, Gladys said:

Well, exactly.  At the moment the economy is working mostly as a closed system, the problem is that when the closed system eventually needs a top up from outside, there may not be much of an outside economy there. 

 

5 hours ago, Barlow said:

There is a veritable shitload of money swilling about on this Island.

I reckon the Island can economically outlive any other economy in the world.

Foreign hols and those fucking cruises are well off the menu for a few years at least. What they gonna spend it on? What?

 

But how long is a closed loop economy sustainable for?

There is without doubt a bit of an internal boom going on at present. 

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6 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

 

But how long is a closed loop economy sustainable for?

There is without doubt a bit of an internal boom going on at present. 

Its not a closed economy imo. There are many here with large investment savings.  The income is derived from stocks,  shares and bonds held worldwide. This includes the Manx sovereign wealth fund.

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14 hours ago, pongo said:

Relatively few need to travel to old fashioned sales meetings - and let's be honest, it would be a silly place for a travelling salesperson to be based.

Many people do have business interests in other parts of the world and before this year it was a relatively easy and inexpensive place to travel to and from, as well as being a nice location to come back to. 

Luckily most business practices are now going digital but we can’t just decide to pull up the drawbridge to international business from now on. We need to best utilise the tax advantages we have before they inevitably disappear. 

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9 hours ago, Cambon said:

Anyone, the economy here is ticking over ok. It is not booming, but ticking over. That is far better than what is happening across and beyond. 

You flippantly mention Costas etc. Yes, that is part of the economy, but look at the amount of construction and home improvement. People buying new furniture, T.V.s,  etc. It is all going on, but you seem to be oblivious. 

Our wisest heads in government have decided that we keep as many people on island as possible to spend locally and keep us ticking over. Which will work in the short term. People will like living on an oasis island whilst the world goes to hell in a handcart but it isn’t sustainable. 

I fear we haven’t got a clue what to do afterwards. As evidenced by us not looking like we had a clue to grow the economy even before this hit. 

We need our next generation to be at the forefront of digital technologies like the blockchain etc... and have a strategy set up to go after it. Not still pander to the lost tourist pound which is never coming back. 

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