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The new UK daily infection and death figures just released fully vindicate the lockdown. 68,000 infections and a new record of 1325 deaths. Anybody want to see that here?

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1 minute ago, Non-Believer said:

The new UK daily infection and death figures just released fully vindicate the lockdown. 68,000 infections and a new record of 1325 deaths. Anybody want to see that here?

How does that in anyway at all justify a lockdown here?

It doesn't even justify level 5 on the borders if you isolate and test people properly

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Someone in Treasury who can use a calculator needs to assess the cost of a lockdown. Even a ball park figure.

Then carry out a similar assessment of cost of extra testing, restrictions, tightening up of borders, plus the non-tangible costs.

 

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2 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said:

It doesn't even justify level 5 on the borders if you isolate and test people properly

Which we don't and haven't been. So where's the option? This is spreading like wildfire across the UK. If it's here, it will do the same if allowed.

London's hospitals are now 35% up on covid cases compared to last April. How could we cope if it got out of hand here?

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19 minutes ago, Banker said:

2 new cases both 1 days arrival, no community spread again so no need for lockdown!!!

It’s still early days yet, if we still have none in 10 days time then you’ll probably be right.

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11 minutes ago, Banker said:

They should have waited as was set out in their very detailed expensive plan!! Still on website!

Er, they did! First case was Reported on 29th Dec. Nearly a week later, what was Originally thought to be spread was reported. Government locked down as a precaution. S of far so good. Only one new case through spread. 

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1 minute ago, Non-Believer said:

Which we don't and haven't been. So where's the option? This is spreading like wildfire across the UK. If it's here, it will do the same if allowed.

London's hospitals are now 35% up on covid cases compared to last April. How could we cope if it got out of hand here?

Disagree.

If we don't see a community spread in a few days we should open back up (I know that won't happen) and go straight to 3 on the borders with the new testing regime for everyone coming in.

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Just now, Cambon said:

Er, they did! First case was Reported on 29th Dec. Nearly a week later, what was Originally thought to be spread was reported. Government locked down as a precaution. S of far so good. Only one new case through spread. 

The published plan had figures that would initiate specific responses from government.

 

They ignored it and overreacted 

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Just now, horatiotheturd said:

Disagree.

If we don't see a community spread in a few days we should open back up (I know that won't happen) and go straight to 3 on the borders with the new testing regime for everyone coming in.

Agreed. But let's get those days out of the way. It's the time required for the virus to incubate, manifest itself and then die off that is critical.

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What happens when it turns out there isn't really any community spread? When in another month or so it happens again? Just another short 'circuit break' again? I know it's a concerning time and they might have done the right thing, but it'll make it harder to get people to comply in future. Something about boys, crying and wolves.

I'm properly cross about this lockdown by the way, even though I get it.

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8 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

What happens when it turns out there isn't really any community spread? When in another month or so it happens again? Just another short 'circuit break' again? I know it's a concerning time and they might have done the right thing, but it'll make it harder to get people to comply in future. Something about boys, crying and wolves.

I'm properly cross about this lockdown by the way, even though I get it.

Hopefully we run out of unvaccinated people before we run out of public appetite for keeping each other safe. 

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7 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

What happens when it turns out there isn't really any community spread? When in another month or so it happens again? Just another short 'circuit break' again? I know it's a concerning time and they might have done the right thing, but it'll make it harder to get people to comply in future. Something about boys, crying and wolves.

I'm properly cross about this lockdown by the way, even though I get it.

The lockdown was brought in because the chance of community spread was high, it doesn’t take long for things to get out of control, it’s better to have a 3 week lockdown than a 3 month lockdown.

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