Uhtred 9,915 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 52 minutes ago, John Wright said: Apparently, according to IOM Constabulary Southern Policing Team FB page, it’s OK to go out dressed as a dinosaur in Ballasalla. Puts a whole new perspective on essential. https://fb.watch/2X9PFM3dGu/ In all fairness during my perambulations in Ballasalla it’s rather difficult not to spot the dinosaurs. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cambon 957 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 59 minutes ago, jaymann said: Performed well yes. But refer to my earlier post in this thread: - Still claiming border/day 1 testing at only 7% detection. - Still claiming 14 days isolation as the gold standard. - Still saying that Day 1 and 13 testing wouldn't have stopped two recent cluster outbreaks as there's always a 1% chance of cases slipping through. All three are correct. The error was in allowing returning people to isolate at home with other family members, all isolating, for 14 days. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Tatlock 11,339 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 58 minutes ago, jaymann said: Performed well yes. But refer to my earlier post in this thread: - Still claiming border/day 1 testing at only 7% detection. - Still claiming 14 days isolation as the gold standard. - Still saying that Day 1 and 13 testing wouldn't have stopped two recent cluster outbreaks as there's always a 1% chance of cases slipping through. The man's obviously a mathematical idiot. He's trying to defend the indefensible. Let's just hope there's no serious repercussions from this outbreak. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatiotheturd 409 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 29 minutes ago, Cambon said: Is it selfish to buy specific foods... Tough one. I may have weeks worth of rice, pasta, etc in my house, but fresh veg, etc. needs to be bought. Dog food, toilet roll etc. also has to be procured. However, when I go shopping, there will be a long list! Is it selfish to travel to a place for exercise? Depends. I live in a built up area. I would rather drive ten minutes to somewhere that I will not encounter dozens of people. Less risk. Is it selfish to exercise at all? No. Exercise is incredibly good for mental health as well as physical health. It is more necessary than almost anything else. Selfish to go out for exercise? It carries a risk. Personally I can exercise at home and in the garden. I get not everyone can do that so am happy for them to go out and introduce that risk. Personally its just as necessary for me to be able to see family as it is for others to go on a 15 mile bike ride. Clearly lots of you don't agree, but let's all try not to be dicks and see others viewpoints and only argue if we have actual science to back up what we are saying. I will never believe its essential to gonand buy milk or go for a bike ride. Some of you will never believe its essential to see loved ones. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatiotheturd 409 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Bbc news. All UK over 18s vaccinated by September. We might need to speed up a bit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tetchtyke 261 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 25 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: I will never believe its essential to gonand buy milk or go for a bike ride. Some of you will never believe its essential to see loved ones. You stay in your house without buying any food or drink. I'll stay in my house and not see my mum, but will go buy bread. Let's see who dies of starvation first. Edited January 10 by tetchtyke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatiotheturd 409 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, tetchtyke said: You stay in your house without buying any food or drink. I'll stay in my house and not see my mum. Let's see who dies of starvation first. Nob You can clearly go and buy essential food, once a fortnight should do it. I only wish I could see my mum who died 35 years ago. That post was meant to show that we can have different viewpoints and not be dicks. Less than half an hour it took for you to prove otherwise. Good work fella Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piebaps 3,155 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 10 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Nob Oooooh get her. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cambon 957 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 23 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Bbc news. All UK over 18s vaccinated by September. We might need to speed up a bit Complete lie! U K health minister spelled out to Piers Morgen that uk policy was to vaccinate all over 50s and see how it affected deaths and hospitalisations before mving ahead with the rest of the population. Anything like the above headline are about encouraging the population. It will not happen! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tetchtyke 261 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 19 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: I only wish I could see my mum who died 35 years ago. That post was meant to show that we can have different viewpoints and not be dicks. Less than half an hour it took for you to prove otherwise. Once again you assume anyone who disagrees hasn't had any family difficulties. On the subject of being a dick, I mentioned my own family difficulties in a previous post. Your response was the "haha" emoji, because clearly me not seeing my kid for a year is fucking *hilarious*. My point was quite simple: you don't last long without food, you can last a long time without seeing family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowman 192 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 minutes ago, Cambon said: Complete lie! U K health minister spelled out to Piers Morgen that uk policy was to vaccinate all over 50s and see how it affected deaths and hospitalisations before mving ahead with the rest of the population. Anything like the above headline are about encouraging the population. It will not happen! It's reported on the front page tomorrow, quoting bbc interview If this actually is true it will mean that the island will be on the same timescale 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatiotheturd 409 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, tetchtyke said: Once again you assume anyone who disagrees hasn't had any family difficulties. On the subject of being a dick, I mentioned my own family difficulties in a previous post. Your response was the "haha" emoji, because clearly me not seeing my kid for a year is fucking *hilarious*. My point was quite simple: you don't last long without food, you can last a long time without seeing family. Are you stupid? I never said you can't buy food, I said you shouldn't make unnecessary trips to buy food. Show me where I said you can't buy food and I will buy you a Mars bar. I also haven't seen one of my kids for over a year. Last saw him last Christmas. That one doesn't actually bother me so much because he understands and I can facetime and talk on the phone. My disabled daughter not seeing her gran etc is very different Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil Down 7,946 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 10 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Are you stupid? I never said you can't buy food, I said you shouldn't make unnecessary trips to buy food. Show me where I said you can't buy food and I will buy you a Mars bar. I also haven't seen one of my kids for over a year. Last saw him last Christmas. That one doesn't actually bother me so much because he understands and I can facetime and talk on the phone. My disabled daughter not seeing her gran etc is very different Your village is missing you... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Mexico 9,373 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, jaymann said: But refer to my earlier post in this thread: - Still claiming border/day 1 testing at only 7% detection. - Still claiming 14 days isolation as the gold standard. - Still saying that Day 1 and 13 testing wouldn't have stopped two recent cluster outbreaks as there's always a 1% chance of cases slipping through. 45 minutes ago, Cambon said: All three are correct. The error was in allowing returning people to isolate at home with other family members, all isolating, for 14 days. All three are wrong and wrong in ways that have been repeatedly explained on here never mind elsewhere. And grasp of the basic science or even common sense would tell people that. On the other hand, the 'error' you describe is pretty meaningless - who people co-isolate with is irrelevant in real terms. They can still catch the virus off an arrival whether they can with them, were on the Island or arrived from Mars. We have the worrying situation where the Minister in charge of health and the only people he seems to listen to simply don't seem to understand science or how it works. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2bees 1,834 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Yes! It worries me that they waffle such lame nonsense about not having super Rach back, while it’s all going to pot! What’s is point in giving the tests to the UK to be included in figures that mean absolutely nothing to us at all. The sooner they shut up and listen to Rach the better. She was their credibility! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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