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22 hours ago, Donald Trumps said:

It's next to impossible in smallish pubs to make a sufficient margin to give the owners a return AND pay the licensee manager a decent salary

That's always been the problem with H&B.  There's a lot of shareholders who have always wanted an endless supply of profits to keep them in the style they have become accustomed and investment (either in improvements or in people) has always taken a second place. 

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3 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

That's always been the problem with H&B.  There's a lot of shareholders who have always wanted an endless supply of profits to keep them in the style they have become accustomed and investment (either in improvements or in people) has always taken a second place. 

They're having no problem investing into Mannin Retail or their haulage business.  They realised some time ago that they needed to move away from a contracting industry.  It seems to me they are a really smart business that is actually putting their effort and resource into something that is sustainable long term and profitable.

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22 hours ago, Donald Trumps said:

It's next to impossible in smallish pubs to make a sufficient margin to give the owners a return AND pay the licensee manager a decent salary

When the brewery got greedy and took the kitchens back from the pubs, that's when it became less attractive and poorly paid. Those that served decent food and ale did well

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3 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

When the brewery got greedy and took the kitchens back from the pubs, that's when it became less attractive and poorly paid. Those that served decent food and ale did well

It also marked the beginning of the exit of the experienced pub landlords and their replacement by minimum wage managers and bar staff. 

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41 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

When the brewery got greedy and took the kitchens back from the pubs, that's when it became less attractive and poorly paid. Those that served decent food and ale did well

Not often you make an accurate post, but this is entirely true. Pub I worked in years ago rented the kitchen for a small rate, and kept the profit. Made them far more interested in pushing the menu, and making it really work. Some of the food was absolutely superb, specials and that. and even the 'pub standards' they did, you at least got a proper feed. We used to get people in from all over just for lunch. When that stopped and they had to do what they were told for a small addition to their wage they just couldnt be arsed trying, and people stopped coming for lunch.

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Its been so long since ive been out of the house,when Thursday comes,im going to collect a pound of tripe then have a half in The Dogs Home,then one in Joes bar,a wine out of the barrel at Yates's,the get a lift out to the Railway to see if the grumpy old fella,still has Okells from the wooden barrels on tressels.

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If you mean the Railway Union Mills then decent fella Ray Corkill has recently passed away, sad to say

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Donald, I think you miss the point of Mr Peel's post, he is harking back to a time long before Ray Corkill was in the Railway.

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Seeing some pics from around the south of the Island in the local pubs with pints flowing. Great to see.

Sadleoke is on for Thursday, not sure how many other pubs someone said are not opening up but can’t see anything official so far.

guessing or from reliable sources?

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The garrison/tap room was busy yesterday. Sidings beer garden rammed. Compton Vaults and Secret Pizza both have gigs this weekend. Castletown is open.

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Oh and the deckchairs including the GIANT one are back today too. Get rid of the cars from the Square please!!

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