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The point of phasing is ... no, I've got no idea either. Just fucking get it done. 

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14 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

Allison has said this morning that schools open on 15th June hub kids will return to their schools on 17th. Then kids in school years 2,6,10 and 12 from week beginning 22nd. Then rest of kids phased in.  With summer holidays due end of July almost seems pointless phasing in all other kids as surely some will only get about 2 weeks.

 

so what’s the point?

You’re assuming there won’t be some schooling during Second half of July and August

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12 minutes ago, John Wright said:

You’re assuming there won’t be some schooling during Second half of July and August

I am assuming that yes, because at no point has government come out and said that.  So using the information available to me it just seems an odd thing to do to talk about phasing presumably a few weeks after the initial lot on 22 Nd June when the chief is talking about 1 meter (arms length) from 15th June and all the stuff he said about work places yesterday.  Just doesn’t seem very joined up to me 

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9 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

I am assuming that yes, because at no point has government come out and said that.  So using the information available to me it just seems an odd thing to do to talk about phasing presumably a few weeks after the initial lot on 22 Nd June when the chief is talking about 1 meter (arms length) from 15th June and all the stuff he said about work places yesterday.  Just doesn’t seem very joined up to me 

I agree that exit or de escalation is very disjointed. But that’s because they’re scared of the elephant in the room which is how to open borders. They daren't even debate it.

Even if we don’t open to non residents we should be opening to residents with something like testing on arrival, and at seven days, with home isolation in between.

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Maybe I’m too simplistic but why don’t departments in government speak to each other?  It just makes everything look so silly.  
 

they all have to have there little moment on the podium.  We will get to the point where offices will be able to welcome staff back but the staff won’t be able to go back because kids are all at school, and it’s not like they have child care because the usual clubs and activities they might book kids onto during school holidays are no on during term time

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47 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

Maybe I’m too simplistic but why don’t departments in government speak to each other?  It just makes everything look so silly.  
 

they all have to have there little moment on the podium.  We will get to the point where offices will be able to welcome staff back but the staff won’t be able to go back because kids are all at school, and it’s not like they have child care because the usual clubs and activities they might book kids onto during school holidays are no on during term time

There has been a major change in how many of the Covid matters are dealt with over the weekend.

Much more of it is being done by directions by DHSC than regulations.

That leads to democratic deficit because the directions aren’t subject to Tynwald scrutiny or approval.

https://edgelawblog.wordpress.com/

 

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

You’re assuming there won’t be some schooling during Second half of July and August

Well that could be the only logical reason to phase a return.

The whole thing is a shambles at the moment.

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It just seems what I would have thought a rather important thing literally involving 1,000s of people would be more at the forefront of the leaders minds rather than some of the other things that seem to be more important to our esteemed leaders.   
 

you don’t often hear the chief mention schools in his briefings.  Yes it isn’t his actual department but he is the chief
 

it’s almost like someone at the end of a meeting says “ oh what about schools?” And they then rush something which doesn’t make sense 

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4 hours ago, Manxberry said:

The point of phasing is ... no, I've got no idea either. Just fucking get it done. 

I am hoping that the baby steps approach in schools gets a size 12 adult boot when the SD distance is reduced, but I fear that the cautious one has too much sway in Comin for that to happen. This academic year is going to be a write off, and I believe that history will judge the severe school measures as unnecessary. I have so far been very underwhelmed, frustrated and upset by the teachers, the unions and the good Doctor, who have entirely lost my previous goodwill. I hope it does not impact our children too much, we will see.

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4 hours ago, John Wright said:

You’re assuming there won’t be some schooling during Second half of July and August

As a very frustrated parent, I would love that to be the case, but we are talking about people who we are told needed their two week holiday over TT. What chance that they will forgo their summer break. This coupled to the usual Manx political default of being overly cautious, with poor and disjointed communication is now in full flow for the unlock period. 

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5 hours ago, John Wright said:

Much more of it is being done by directions by DHSC than regulations.

That leads to democratic deficit because the directions aren’t subject to Tynwald scrutiny or approval.

https://edgelawblog.wordpress.com/

 

Yes it’s both shocking and concerning. 

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What constitutes needing a break?  I have been working hard from home every day since lockdown and I haven’t started bleating about needing a two break at tt.  I actually have not had a single day off this year.  They need to gain some perspective.

 

i have emailed the mannin which they chief is on tomorrow but I’m sure my question won’t be asked 

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5 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

What constitutes needing a break?  I have been working hard from home every day since lockdown and I haven’t started bleating about needing a two break at tt.  I actually have not had a single day off this year.  They need to gain some perspective.

 

i have emailed the mannin which they chief is on tomorrow but I’m sure my question won’t be asked 

The few teachers who had been working should have been replaced by the ones who did bugger all for 3 months not even set online lessons. SChools should be open in summer but can you see teachers giving up another 6 weeks paid holiday to help the children who've suffered?

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One of the arguments made when people comment on the length of teachers holidays or finishing at 3:30 is that they spend much of the holidays working by preparing for the next term or academic year, catching up on matters. To an extent I agree with that argument as I would have little confidence in a teacher who did not preparation etc for teaching.

On that basis they should as they expect to spend much of there time working anyway during the holiday period surely the only real change is it will be more formalised and from home if the schools where open for longer over the summer.

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Know one has mentioned schools open in summer from the government and as such I would assume nothing has been even thought about.  Certainly after that press conference today it doesn’t fill you with confidence 

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