Manx schools

[RIchard Britten]

1 minute ago, Lost Login said:

The first sentence is a non answer

No, it is an unpopular answer because people want hair cuts and rid of their kids for 8 hours a day.

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We can achieve nil ...

Nope.

CV-19 is a new virus that we barely understand now.  Who knows how it will mutate in the months, years to come.

The harder we work to squash it now, the more lives in the future we save.

And there in lies the issue, "it doesnt affect me directly now, so why should I care".

[Lost Login]

8 minutes ago, P.K. said:

When are the idiots on here going to realise that actually there is no such thing as an "acceptable" avoidable death?

 

Acceptable is not the correct word but in saving 1 person 5 others die then unfortunately saving the 5 will have priority. Would I describe that as "acceptable? No, I would describe as the best of the options that are available. You appear to want to save all 6, and I am sure we would all like that, but that is not an option that is available  

[RIchard Britten]

1 minute ago, Lost Login said:

Acceptable is not the correct word but in saving 1 person 5 others die then unfortunately saving the 5 will have priority. 

By exposing the 5 to an increased risk, are you saving them or rolling the dice and hoping for the best?

 

[Lost Login]

1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said:

No, it is an unpopular answer because people want hair cuts and rid of their kids for 8 hours a day.

Nope.

CV-19 is a new virus that we barely understand now.  Who knows how it will mutate in the months, years to come.

The harder we work to squash it now, the more lives in the future we save.

And there in lies the issue, "it doesnt affect me directly now, so why should I care".

I do care and it may affect me if I caught it and it would certainly accept my parents who live across and being elderly there is a fair chance, even if they don't catch Covid 19 that I and my kids will never see at least on of them alive in the flesh again.

Risks have to be balance based on what is known and assumptions based on available evidence. People will have different views of those risks. Some will argue open everything up and let each person look after themselves, others say we must do every act to prevent any further cases of Covid 19 or deaths in the IoM and hang the consequences. I am in the middle which is basically they we should take reasonable steps to prevent a major outbreak in the IoM and we need to ensure that the IoM hospital can cope with the number of cases that we do get. That to me means shortly keeping border restrictions, limiting capacity of some venues but getting rid of compulsory distancing   

[RIchard Britten]

2 minutes ago, Lost Login said:

...getting rid of compulsory distancing   

Have you seen what is happening in the US and South America when distancing has been ignored?

[Nomadic Raptor]

1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said:

Have you seen what is happening in the US and South America when distancing has been ignored?

But in respect South America and the us didn’t have 1 active case like we do

[RIchard Britten]

1 minute ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

But in respect South America and the us didn’t have 1 active case like we do

That you know of (as I previously said).

[Nomadic Raptor]

Just now, RIchard Britten said:

That you know of (as I previously said).

The way you talk you would think there is 10,000 hidden cases on this island 

[Lost Login]

5 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said:

By exposing the 5 to an increased risk, are you saving them or rolling the dice and hoping for the best?

 

You are base it on fact, knowledge and experience. Using those you make a judgement. There is no wrong or right answer except I am pretty certain that there is a danger of going so OTT on Covid 19 we take our eye off the ball elsewhere. My concern is that it appears that for some nothing else but Covid 19 matters and that Government is at risk of taking an extreme view of what to do about winding down the restrictions as to them the negative publicity of a few more Covid 19 cases is far more important that the health care of the rest of the economy.

[RIchard Britten]

1 minute ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

The way you talk you would think there is 10,000 hidden cases on this island 

Have all 80,00 (ish) people on the island been tested in the last 48 hours?

Because that is the crux of it, how confident are you that there isn't a large number of people asymptomatic infected on the island?

[RIchard Britten]

Just now, Lost Login said:

...health care of the rest of the economy.

Economical health vs the health of the country.

Enjoy that second wave.

[RIchard Britten]

1 minute ago, Lost Login said:

There is no wrong or right answer except...

You have said what they are doing is wrong, and the right thing to is open the gates.

[Golfer]

4 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said:

Have all 80,00 (ish) people on the island been tested in the last 48 hours?

Because that is the crux of it, how confident are you that there isn't a large number of people asymptomatic infected on the island?

As has been stated by medical professionals here and in U.K. there is no point in testing everyone without symptoms as you would have to do it every 14 days which is not practical.

with more going out if there are spreaders we will soon see more cases, those who are scared should just stay inside for as long as they want and stop whining when the rest of population want restrictions eased and children educated.

[Lost Login]

1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said:

That you know of (as I previously said).

We don't know for certain that we have never had any cases of Ebola in the IoM or that somebody travelling in one day might bring it. We view it as unlikely so don't gear up and put in place restrictions just in case it might happen. You act on the evidence and the current evidence is that presently if there are any cases on the IoM they are few in number and asymptomatic. We run on that hypothesis until the evidence indicates it is correct or not. Restrictions need the support of the public and if the public feel they are unnecessary many will not follow and if they are needed again the public will be less likely to support as they will just see that the Govt is over reacting again 

 

[RIchard Britten]

1 minute ago, Golfer said:

...with more going out if there are spreaders we will soon see more cases

You know what a "second wave" is right?

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...the rest of population want restrictions eased and children educated.

Nothing is stopping you educating your children or is it that you want someone else to risk themselves to do it?