HeliX Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Keith brief said: So referring to a white person's skin colour in a derogatory way isn't racist? Goodness me..... Gammon isn't racial. Most white people aren't gammons. White people who get red in the face at the thought of not leaving the EU, or losing at football, or too many "foreigns" are gammons. You can't be racist against opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/28/2021 at 5:25 PM, Max Power said: Not really, all those witnesses saw nothing? Nothing unusual, par for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, HeliX said: You can't be racist against opinions. Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, quilp said: Eh? Gammon isn't a race, nor a personality trait. It's a description of a person with a certain set of opinions. It is not a racist term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Doublespeak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, quilp said: Doublespeak. Really? What bit of that don't you follow? You can only be racist against protected characteristics. Gammon isn't a description of a particular protected characteristic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Er, ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, quilp said: Er, ok... Do you disagree? Do you think there's some racial component to "gammon"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, HeliX said: Do you disagree? Do you think there's some racial component to "gammon"? Yes, it is supposed to refer to a middle aged, overweight, white male who has a tendency to flush with rage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Gladys said: Yes, it is supposed to refer to a middle aged, overweight, white male who has a tendency to flush with rage. Only one of those components has anything to do with race. I'd also argue its more specific than that, because it targets those with particular views. There's also an interesting hypocrisy in that a lot of the people who believe gammon is a racial slur don't believe stuff like "chinky" is a racial slur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, HeliX said: Only one of those components has anything to do with race. I'd also argue its more specific than that, because it targets those with particular views. There's also an interesting hypocrisy in that a lot of the people who believe gammon is a racial slur don't believe stuff like "chinky" is a racial slur. OK. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 .....meanwhile injustices continue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Thumbs. I've heard them described as thumbs recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Yes, it is supposed to refer to a middle aged, overweight, white male who has a tendency to flush with rage. I know that we often think of them as trumped-up, lower-middle Captain Mainwaring types, but it's probably a bit racist to assume that all gammons are white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I realise that you nobody means to be racist here. But I think it's important not to assume that all gammons are white men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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