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1 hour ago, manxman1980 said:

As for the compensation he has received it was not a figure decided by an employment tribunal as YCCC decided to settle the matter outside of the tribunal (presumably they didn't want further details being made public or knew they were going to lose). 

The compensation would likely be based around loss of earnings and compensation for injury to feelings.  An award for injury to feelings is based on the vento bands which you can look up.

You can look up the average awards at employment tribunals online.  The highest award in 2019/20 for instance was £265,719.

I don't understand why you seem to have an issue with the settlement figure.  Its not an unusual. 

YCCC originally offered the sum on condition he stayed silent. It was only when there were changes to the board following  the uproar about the way YCCC were handing the matter, including the loss of major sponsors, that YCCC took the NDA requirement out. Whether the amount was appropriate and how it was calculated I have no information on which to make a judgement but reducing the amount offered on withdrawing the NDA would, I expect, not been have a viable option, as it would have been very hard for YCCC to argue that the money was not offered just to buy the guys silence. 

There has long been a question of racism, direct or overt, in respect of cricket in England at the top levels. It is obviously a sport that is very popular in South Asia and the UK has a large South Asian community many of whom play cricket yet that diversity is not really reflected at the highest levels. It is reckoned that over 30% of club players are of South Asian decent yet only 4% of county players. That were the figures from a few years back

Cricket at present appears to reflect football in the 1970's were you would see very view none white players at the top level. I think Viv Anderson was the first black player to play for England in the late 1970s. I don't think that cricket at present is quite in that position but something appears to be going wrong somewhere if the numbers of South Asians paling Cricket at lower levels is not reflected at the top levels. It maybe nothing to do with race, rather that it is basically a case that you  need to have gone to public school to get the coaching.

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10 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

If you read my post correctly you will see that I said I was not saying any exaggeration of the case occurred here.

The award does seem generous to me when compared with say awards for industrial accidents where limbs are lost etc That is why I started the discussion little knowing it would lead to implications of racist motives.

But as Manxman80 has explained such an award is not unusual and I accept that

Nor did I give any credence to the claim that the use of the P word was friendly banter. This was in the Sky News report that I quoted. I have never opined that the use of such a word is friendly banter. My own opinion is exactly the opposite.

The implication you made using these falsehoods is both scurrilous and hurtful and I would be obliged if you would retract it.

I don’t intend to discuss this further.

 

All your posts seem to be questioning the outcome.  If you repeat what others says do not be surprised if you get associated with those view. 

Your posts were classic examples of somebody saying I am not alleging X and then making posts suggesting why X is correct. Maybe you should be more careful of how you post.

 

 

[manxman1980]

47 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

The award does seem generous to me when compared with say awards for industrial accidents where limbs are lost etc That is why I started the discussion little knowing it would lead to implications of racist motives.

But as Manxman80 has explained such an award is not unusual and I accept that

Let's be clear about this.  As far as I can tell the amount paid by YCCC was part of a settlement agreement and was not an award made by an employment tribunal.  The settlement will have taken account of what a possible employment tribunal award would be though.

38 minutes ago, Lost Login said:

YCCC originally offered the sum on condition he stayed silent. It was only when there were changes to the board following  the uproar about the way YCCC were handing the matter, including the loss of major sponsors, that YCCC took the NDA requirement out. Whether the amount was appropriate and how it was calculated I have no information on which to make a judgement but reducing the amount offered on withdrawing the NDA would, I expect, not been have a viable option, as it would have been very hard for YCCC to argue that the money was not offered just to buy the guys silence. 

Every single settlement agreement I have seen has included a NDA.  There are plenty of reasons for doing so which can include the employer not wanting other employees to find out about the agreement or it could be to prevent information coming into the public domain that they would prefer to remain undisclosed. 

Again the actions of YCCC in respect of the NDA is not unusual.

[Ghost Ship]

I see Azeem Rafiq has now had to apologise for anti-semitic language he used in messages from ten years ago.

Azeem Rafiq apologises for historical anti-Semitic messages - BBC Sport

Plus another - former - Yorkshire player has apologised for racist language in tweets from 2012.

[Itsmeee]

2 minutes ago, Ghost Ship said:

I see Azeem Rafiq has now had to apologise for anti-semitic language he used in messages from ten years ago.

Azeem Rafiq apologises for historical anti-Semitic messages - BBC Sport

Plus another - former - Yorkshire player has apologised for racist language in tweets from 2012.

Why is he allowed to apologise, but other people who have behaved in a similar manner have lost their jobs? 

[Trackman]

Here's a picture of him too with the offending word

 

[Trackman]

1 hour ago, Itsmeee said:

Why is he allowed to apologise, but other people who have behaved in a similar manner have lost their jobs? 

And some more inoffensive language

 

[Peter Layman]

37 minutes ago, Trackman said:

Here's a picture of him too with the offending word

 

You really couldn't make this shit up

[wrighty]

59 minutes ago, Trackman said:

Here's a picture of him too with the offending word

 

Is that real though? Anyone could knock up something like with with a basic photo editor. 

[quilp]

33 minutes ago, wrighty said:

Is that real though? Anyone could knock up something like with with a basic photo editor. 

 

 

[quilp]

A quick search reveals an indoor cricket team in Australia. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by quilp