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2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

We will never be able to leave tribal nonsense behind.

I sincerely hope you're wrong, but I would also put money on it not being in my lifetime, my kids lifetime, nor my grandkids lifetime.

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Sadly the original link doesn't work for me ... it might be being blocked due to work so I'll try later on my personal computer. This seemed an appropriate thread to post this image which popped

We need rog to calibrate the system before I accept any of these results

Yes, but equally poorly.  I don't care who gets used as ballast in my personal yacht, or whose children work 20 hour shifts in my commemorative plate factories, just as long as the job gets done.

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I think the "other one" may be this one: https://www.politicalcompass.org/

edit: though I DESPISE this question on that one:
"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."

I mean it is, but it's a bad thing. So what's the answer?

 

Double edit: Again surprising no-one...

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2 minutes ago, quilp said:

That's the one PK did about 11 times so he could show how morally superior he was. Typical Guardianista... 

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Gandhi was a fascist.

 

The Guardian is shite though.

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Yeah thats the one. I've shifted left since the last time I did it apparently, but that's not really a surprise considering the rampant corruption and complete inadequacies of the Trump and Johnson administrations. They're letting the whole world down and turning people into commies

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I think both quizzes are useful, but provide different things. The 8Values one breaks your opinion on various important issues down well, but doesn't summarise your overall position well - someone's left/right balance is more than the sum of the parts the quiz covers. The politicalcompass one obviously doesn't give you any info on position on specific issues, but is a better summary.

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1 hour ago, HeliX said:

A long way to go to leave tribal nonsense behind. Nuclear deterrent only works because it's possible to credibly believe that your opponent would end the entire world over a ground war.

I'm with The Teapot on this. We will never leave 'tribal nonsense'  behind. It's a nice dream but that's all it is. Fighting and killing is as much a part of the human condition as eating, breathing and mating with as much chance of leaving it behind. Nuclear weapons cannot be uninvented. 

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1 hour ago, HeliX said:

I think both quizzes are useful, but provide different things. The 8Values one breaks your opinion on various important issues down well, but doesn't summarise your overall position well - someone's left/right balance is more than the sum of the parts the quiz covers. The politicalcompass one obviously doesn't give you any info on position on specific issues, but is a better summary.

I like both quizzes, and they're fun, but I suspect neither is particularly useful. The problem is that the questions are worded in such a way that there's likely to be a lot of survey response effect skewing things one way or the other. Generally speaking, questionnaires investigating these kinds of things are better when they're working on a couple of levels deeper than bald statements of opinion on issues or ideology and from which you can determine political standpoints; e.g. by using hypothetical or played out scenarios to probe underlying attitudes.  A further benefit of that approach is that you can sneak in a few questions about distressed tortoises to find out if you're dealing with a replicant. 

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1 hour ago, HeliX said:

I think both quizzes are useful

Not as useful as something which is actually useful though. Like a toothbrush, or a screwdriver, or a pair of underpants, or a condom or - well any of the almost infinite number of things which are more useful.

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