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The head from Balla was on today despairing because she had lost six teachers since September, I wonder why ?   Perhaps not a happy ship ?   If I had lost six employees in two months I would be taking a hard look at all aspects which caused them to leave so abruptly.   This is the lady who opposed JFK chicken outlet because her pupils would be tempted, even though McDonalds are practically next door.........:whatever:   

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Unions seem to be getting rather irate that government haven’t got money to pay them an extra 9% plus £1.75m lump sums on top of 2.75% they have already had this year. personally I think they are

Trouble is, how do you objectively measure the outcome of a teacher?  Teacher A gets set 1 and everyone gets a top grade.  Teacher B gets set 6 and barely anyone sits the exam.  Teacher C has a pastor

Teaching assistants are needed because the Island has no special schools for children with serious physical or cognitive impairments, and no pupil referral units for the most unruly. This means classe

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The reason will be Covid. Covid is the reason for everything

And if the bleating head from Ramsey is anything to go by, it's because they can't bring their families over to see them.

But obviously, more money is the answer. Lots more lovely money. 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Barlow said:

The reason will be Covid. Covid is the reason for everything

And if the bleating head from Ramsey is anything to go by, it's because they can't bring their families over to see them.

But obviously, more money is the answer. Lots more lovely money. 

 

 

Funnily enough ... a lot of teachers (and nurses) have UK connections and want to see their families at Christmas.

A 7 day break followed by 14 days in quarantine is prohibitive so you are quite correct, Covid is playing it's part in a small way.

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1 hour ago, Barlow said:

You're right of course and I feel for people stuck on the Island in these circumstances, but a pandemic is a bit of a bugger and travel and family are sometimes sacrifices that have to be made.

Most are wanting families to be allowed to visit IOM and follow isolation rules, Channel Islands, UK and most countries in world allow families to visit but not IOM

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13 hours ago, hissingsid said:

Dr Allinson was on about the Unions on MR today he said there were four different unions, I thought a new one had just been formed, head teachers or summat so bad news for him now there are five..:rolleyes:

The new union main point from their pronouncements as far as I can tell is subs stay on island and they claim to represent issues unique to IoM education system. Since only unique feature of IoM education system (excluding places like North Korea and Somalia) is no transparent independently run attainment assessment (SATS in UK), I assume keeping present status quo is their modus operandi. In rest developed world  the social contract between parents and education system is parents are provided with objective measure of attainment against a curriculum produced by subject area experts. The purpose of assessment is both to assess what the child had learnt so school can determine what level to pose subsequent instruction and to access that the curriculum is even being delivered.

 

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4 hours ago, hissingsid said:

If I had lost six employees in two months I would be taking a hard look at all aspects which caused them to leave so abruptly.

Was it reported that no-one asked for an exit interview. How about asking them why they left ? That's as bad as the DHSC used to be until it was pointed out that recruitment and retention needed that data.

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2 hours ago, Barlow said:

But obviously, more money is the answer. Lots more lovely money. 

Just for reference I want to observe based on FOI requests (which I cannot confirm or deny I have anything to do with), the average pay of head teachers on island in over 77K (+ pension), versus the cost of ingredients of average school dinner being 97p.

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51 minutes ago, BenFairfax said:

Just for reference I want to observe based on FOI requests (which I cannot confirm or deny I have anything to do with), the average pay of head teachers on island in over 77K (+ pension), versus the cost of ingredients of average school dinner being 97p.

What do you think is an appropriate ratio of head teacher pay to school dinner ingredient cost?

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1 hour ago, BenFairfax said:

Just for reference I want to observe based on FOI requests (which I cannot confirm or deny I have anything to do with), the average pay of head teachers on island in over 77K (+ pension), versus the cost of ingredients of average school dinner being 97p.

There are several senior managers at Nobles and around getting that , and more. How many medical staff earn two or three times that much ?

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1 minute ago, Apple said:

Should we compare an Associate Specialist post to the cost of a swab or a syringe? or even a vaccine...?

It really isn't a good comparison.

No, there must be a formula that describes the appropriate ratio of the person running the business' salary to the cost of the lunch ingredients.

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7 minutes ago, HeliX said:

No, there must be a formula that describes the appropriate ratio of the person running the business' salary to the cost of the lunch ingredients.

That sou ends like an issue I need to take up with Mrs Apple - I might be getting short changed....

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2 hours ago, Apple said:

Was it reported that no-one asked for an exit interview. How about asking them why they left ? That's as bad as the DHSC used to be until it was pointed out that recruitment and retention needed that data.

The problem with exit interviews (and handy for hr departments) is that the information gained in relation to issues regarding employment, including things like performance, expected workload, or bullying and harassment is then swept under the carpet, if felt it’s not in the better good to expose shortcomings of the department hq, heads or leaders......

It seems a toxic system that in some instances unfortunately promotes staff, rather than deal with those who are incapable of doing the job they signed up for just to get them out of the way......just look at the list of “leaders” in the department hq, and in schools, and a lot of teachers could provide some interesting background into their “promotion” to heights of being advisors to people on the chalk face, with little evidence of outstanding data in their own practice, but yet HR will defend them from issues no matter what, unless off course you’ve exposed something that needs you removed.......then see what happens! I recall one head teacher that this happened to a few years back, was demoted and then sent out to graze!!!

Cloaks and daggers.

Beamans exposed this from my reading, but only loosing one of the “leaders” doesn’t change a system!

Good luck to Mr Kincade, he’s a job on his hands, but only time will tell if he’s up for change and accountability, not as apparently happened of the report with harassment of staff with silly badgering of new methodologies.

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It sounds very much like a replica of the DHSC to be fair which has been mentioned before. 

I don't though think Mr Kinrade is the type that will use the same tactics as our past Directors and CEO's of the DHSC but you never know. 

It is clear though that the governments appetite for delivering public services has been significantly reduced and that it is the long term strategy to deploy it to other organisations. 

Maybe then we can reduce the MHKs and combine Departments ? 

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