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You have to work hard, and really engage with your doctor and specialist to move things forward. I might have been lucky, but in the three ops I’ve had at Nobles things have been great, although the l

Back in 1994, my mother died because the consultant didn't get to see her early in her bowel cancer journey. She had been complaining since 1998 of symptoms but in my opinion, Noble's Hospital killed

If only waiting lists were as simple to manage as that Max! Here's a few reasons why our waiting lists are long. Lack of capacity - both in terms of manpower and physical space Excess d

On 9/3/2020 at 9:23 PM, Banker said:

Ok , knew they were now staff. Sure Neil Down will now accept facts but he’s not a big fan of the truth 

I also think HQ was involved and the staff were given temporary contracts that exceeded the 12 month rule, so they ended up with permanent jobs with all the trimmings

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41 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

I also think HQ was involved and the staff were given temporary contracts that exceeded the 12 month rule, so they ended up with permanent jobs with all the trimmings

I thought it was a 'smart move by a clever person'?

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3 hours ago, dilligaf said:

The smart person was not H Q

The smart person will never be HQ.

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17 hours ago, code99 said:

I understand that even some high-income earners are looking to leave because our health system does not work for them. And they are not unique. 

That is why the pressure is on to get the Private Patient Unit up and running and someone to operate it. The DHSC needs the income it could generate.

In the past the Hospital has used waiting list initiatives to pay huge amounts of money for consultants to do more sessions out side of their contacted hours. 

The two things together would help to reduce the lists and keep the hospital clear  'just in case'. 

Mental Health services under pressure too.  I am told recently a woman with maternal depression after birth told waiting lists is 7 months to be seen. 

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I think it’s like most things now. Unless you have money to go private you are pretty much stuffed. Used to be if you were really ill the NHS here would look after you but I don’t think even that is true now. I don’t think the IOM is a good place to be old or ill but is even the UK these days? Unless you have a bit of a cough that is and you get a 4000 bed hospital all to yourself.

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14 minutes ago, Anyone said:

I think it’s like most things now. Unless you have money to go private you are pretty much stuffed. Used to be if you were really ill the NHS here would look after you but I don’t think even that is true now. I don’t think the IOM is a good place to be old or ill but is even the UK these days? Unless you have a bit of a cough that is and you get a 4000 bed hospital all to yourself.

Quite, you just get fobbed off for ever and a day presumably in the hope you shuffle off this mortal coil before they have to spend any money on you!

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Don't worry chaps - Manx Care and Integrated Care will sort everything out. I do trust Ashford on this as the way forward (going back to the old "Board" days) and there will probably be those  who can breath a sigh of relief for not having such close political scrutiny. (saves on having to prepare Tynwald answers!) 

Perhaps someone will ask on his tour what he is doing to reduce waiting lists, now, not next year. 

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On 9/3/2020 at 1:18 PM, Roger Mexico said:

Actually it isn't (or rather wasn't).  According to a now rather redundant webpage:

https://www.gov.im/categories/health-and-wellbeing/hospitals-and-emergency-treatment/nobles-hospital/thie-bee-coffee-shop/

Thie Bee is the brand name for all catering provided by Noble's Hospital. 

It's predecessor was run privately, but was nationalised under Couch as part of some 'money-saving' scheme whereby services could be provided by Government Departments at only several times the previous cost (see also meals on wheels, patient transport etc).  It was basically empire-building for the sake of it.

I suspect the actual staff you interacted with will have been zero hours and lowly paid and will have been laid off, but there will no doubt be several managers who were in charge of them sitting around.

Was up for various regular blood tests this morning. Thie Bee now reopened. Bloods are back in outpatients C clinic area.

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35 minutes ago, Anyone said:

Had my bloods done 3 weeks ago ( one for cancer ) , no word yet and no idea when. So I’m assuming I’m fine. Oh well it’s now the NCS.

Some of my samples go off to Guys for genetic testing for PML RARA, a marker for the swap of two bits of genes that caused leukaemia. Takes 5-6 weeks. Waiting is a period of uncertainty. Testing is every 8 weeks. So I’m waiting on results 35-40 weeks a year. Always have to chase.

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Well, my 26/10 samples came back "no leukaemia translocation detected" in less than 2 weeks, fastest ever.

This morning I got an appointment letter for endocrinology clinic on  4th February 2021. Its follow up from side effects of the chemo and, according to the letter,  is supposed to be annual. All being well I'll be isolating then after a trip off Island. So I dutifully rang to cancel and release the appointment to someone with greater need.  Then I asked to book a replacement. July. The tone was grudging, as if they were doing me a favour, I don't for one minute believe they dont have appointments available  in March. I questioned, and was told "didn't I know its a very busy clinic" did I want the July appointment or to be discharged. 

As I am not sure what benefit attending will do, as Nobles doesn't talk to  Clatterbridge adequately, and before my appointment last year I was sent in error to have tests, for something already tested for at Liverpool, and having waited 12 weeks, and having chased, found out that Liverpool Women's was refusing to analyse the samples for a second time as its an either you have it, born with it, genetic marker, or you don't, and I didn't, and they weren't wasting resources I opted for discharge.

Then looked at the consultant reporting letter from my last endocrinology appointment. Ended by saying I was discharged and that the consultant would be happy to see me again if GP referred. GP had not referred. 

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9 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Well, my 26/10 samples came back "no leukaemia translocation detected" in less than 2 weeks, fastest ever.

 

Good result !

9 minutes ago, John Wright said:

I questioned, and was told "didn't I know its a very busy clinic" did I want the July appointment or to be discharged.

At least you were given a choice😄. Many aren't

 

11 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Then looked at the consultant reporting letter from my last endocrinology appointment. Ended by saying I was discharged and that the consultant would be happy to see me again if GP referred. GP had not referred. 

You got a letter? About your treatment? From the Doctor? (Sarcasm). Presumably a chat with your GP is in order....

 

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