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3 hours ago, Boris Johnson said:

 

"support the development and implementation of all logistical, infrastructure, facilities management, health and safety and risk management elements of the Isle of Man TT, Classic TT and Manx Grand Prix."

I'd want a lot more than £45K to take on that responsibility.........................

I think that is what will finish it in time, no one will want to put their name to documents about risk management of the course when the course is plainly totally unsafe, let alone spectator safety and the gov would not spend the money to make it safe.

It has nothing to do with spending money to make it safe.  It can't be made safe.  There is nothing you can  do to make road racing safe except not race on roads.  Then it wouldn't be road racing.  It was be track racing. BSB WSB Moto GP.   These are still all very dangerous too.   That is of course where you can make spectstors safer. At a track.

Mortorbike racing is inherently risky.  Road Racing even more so.   The biggest risk to the event is a multiple crowd fatality.

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13 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

It can be made a lot safer, removing the wire fencing along the length of most of the mountain section for a start.

That wire is perfect for a clean removal of a head or other appendages.

Or you could plough into a mountain sheep. That would be laugh.

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1 minute ago, TheTeapot said:

Or you could plough into a mountain sheep. That would be laugh.

Or just fly off your bike and land in a wall.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Or you could plough into a mountain sheep. That would be laugh.

I was a passenger in a car that hit a sheep on the mountain mile at well over 100mph!

Not a pretty sight the sheep nor the car.

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5 hours ago, finlo said:

I was a passenger in a car that hit a sheep on the mountain mile at well over 100mph!

Not a pretty sight the sheep nor the car.

That just goes to show the absurdity of the Manx government's attitude to road safety and the wholly inappropriate lack of a national speed limit on the Isle of Man. Such crazy speeds are bad enough on the narrow country mountain road as it is, even if it is the best road over here. Throw in a likely encounter with livestock and well, let's be honest, it's mental. 

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7 minutes ago, ManxTaxPayer said:

That just goes to show the absurdity of the Manx government's attitude to road safety and the wholly inappropriate lack of a national speed limit on the Isle of Man. Such crazy speeds are bad enough on the narrow country mountain road as it is, even if it is the best road over here. Throw in a likely encounter with livestock and well, let's be honest, it's mental. 

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7 hours ago, Max Power said:

This is a government role, dealing with the event rather than the on track element. This is dealt with by ACU Events for the TT and the Manx Motor Cycle Club for the MGP and CTT. It is governed by the ACU, through its course inspections, the Clerk of the Course and the Safety Officer. All risk assessments relating to the racing are carried out by them. The H&S involving the rest of the event are the responsibility of the DofE.  

Yes, that must be the case Max, although the Job advert is not explicit enough to make it clear. The TT Course has a great deal of course equipment, all DofE owned and this needs managing and organising. The actual deployment of the equipment has to be the responsibility of the race organisers, ACU Events. However, I do sense a blurring of the lines of responsibility in recent years and I would be concerned if Government took on responsibility or shared liability for risk assessment... that would not seem to be sensible unless they could demonstrate sufficient professional expertise and/or were willing to accept financial liabilities outside of the insurance offered by ACU. As you say, event risk assessment outside of racing activity is another thing entirely and within the remit of DofE.

The word "safety" is always very tricky when applied to the racing. It should be avoided. Road Racing is inherently risk-laden, for competitors, spectators, Organisers and Promoters and anybody suggesting that they had a role to ensure "safety" would be very ill-advised to do so. This has not stopped some from adopting these roles in the past and I would question the judgment that allowed that to happen. However, any activity can be subject to risk assessment; the aim of which is to assess and mitigate the risk to a level considered to be acceptable enough to allow the activity to continue. Decisions about what level of risk is acceptable are matters of judgement for the Organisers, Promoters and those providing the insurance cover.

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1 hour ago, ManxTaxPayer said:

That just goes to show the absurdity of the Manx government's attitude to road safety and the wholly inappropriate lack of a national speed limit on the Isle of Man. Such crazy speeds are bad enough on the narrow country mountain road as it is, even if it is the best road over here. Throw in a likely encounter with livestock and well, let's be honest, it's mental. 

In fairness it was the best part of forty years ago when there was much less traffic.

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It's coming back stronger than ever in 2022!

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/tt-will-come-back-stronger-than-ever-says-skelly/

Speaking in the House of Keys this week Laurence Skelly said his department has carried out extensive consultation with all stakeholder groups over the last year.

This, he claims, has generated 'the largest body of intelligence' ever created around the event

 

Hyperbowl or oxymoron?

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29 minutes ago, littlebushy said:

It's coming back stronger than ever in 2022!

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/tt-will-come-back-stronger-than-ever-says-skelly/

Speaking in the House of Keys this week Laurence Skelly said his department has carried out extensive consultation with all stakeholder groups over the last year.

This, he claims, has generated 'the largest body of intelligence' ever created around the event

 

Hyperbowl or oxymoron?

i going with hypermoron

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