Barlow 933 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Banker said: I think the issue is 4 weeks in jail is OTT , we are the only civilized nation treating its citizens like this. No one else is , the CI issue fines. Howie and his mates at the courts are out of control! Some might say the policy gets results. And if you can't do the time etc. Edited November 3, 2020 by Barlow 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotty 495 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Banker said: I think the issue is 4 weeks in jail is OTT , we are the only civilized nation treating its citizens like this. No one else is , the CI issue fines. Howie and his mates at the courts are out of control! But we have no serious cases and nobody in ITU. Is that just by chance ? NO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,454 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: More good press........................ This really does not deserve a prison sentence, this is just getting very North Korea. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-54784559 "found him sitting in close contact with his family and his girlfriend." So they’re now checking inside your own house where you sit? That’s totally fucked up. We are truly North Korea. Could have been dealt with with a warning / fine / penalty but fucking prison for sitting on your own sofa? That is literally insane. Edited November 3, 2020 by thesultanofsheight 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boris Johnson 684 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Its that kind of attitude here that has made me decide to leave the island a lot sooner than I was going to. It was always my intention due to the hospital not being up to treating my condition as I age. This has brought that move forward quite a few years I am sad to say. I am sure I am not the only one either, I never planned living in a police state. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gladys 7,449 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Seems to me a fine would be better, add to the coffers, save the cost of imprisonment and avoid a criminal record with a custodial sentence. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,453 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Barlow said: Some might say the policy gets results. And if you can't do the time etc. The policy doesn’t get results unless you think locking up people for mount breaches, costing the tax payer thousands for jail and massive negative PR is a result? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,453 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scotty said: But we have no serious cases and nobody in ITU. Is that just by chance ? NO Neither do Guernsey but they don’t jail people as first option like our idiots 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotty 495 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Banker said: Neither do Guernsey but they don’t jail people as first option like our idiots Their population don’t see it so clearly and envy us. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,454 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Banker said: The policy doesn’t get results unless you think locking up people for mount breaches, costing the tax payer thousands for jail and massive negative PR is a result? It’s literally crazy. If a neighbour (ie, ‘concerned’ nosy bastard) of mine put one of my kids in prison for reporting that they’d need to have the fire brigade on speed dial for the next five years. Miserable pathetic vindictive arsehole. Edited November 3, 2020 by thesultanofsheight 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,453 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Scotty said: Their population don’t see it so clearly and envy us. WTF are you on about? Why would Guernsey envy a country which jails it’s population for minor offenses! They have a proper exit strategy, testing on arrival & let families visit. I think many here envy them! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barlow 933 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: It’s literally crazy. If a neighbour (ie, ‘concerned’ nosy bastard) of mine put one of my kids in prison for reporting that they’d need to have the fire brigade on speed dial for the next five years. Miserable pathetic vindictive arsehole. If a neighbour's kid, due to a two-fingers-up-yours attitude to the virus, put one of my elderly relatives or indeed myself in hospital or worse, that neighbour might need the fire brigade ....etc 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotty 495 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: It’s literally crazy. If a neighbour (ie, ‘concerned’ nosy bastard) of mine put one of my kids in prison for reporting that they’d need to have the fire brigade on speed dial for the next five years. Miserable pathetic vindictive arsehole. Showing yourself up there, regardless of what I think about you. If one of my kids broke the rules I would be totally ashamed. I wouldn’t blame someone for reporting their transgressions 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,454 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Barlow said: If a neighbour's kid, due to a two-fingers-up-yours attitude to the virus, put one of my elderly relatives or indeed myself in hospital or worse, that neighbour might need the fire brigade ....etc Your confusing the breach with the punishment meted out. Warning / fine / penalty is proportionate to encourage compliance. Putting someone in prison because of some nosy twat reporting you for sitting on your own sofa is doing fuck all extra to protect anyone from covid. If you believe it is you need to get your head sorted. Edited November 3, 2020 by thesultanofsheight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barlow 933 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Some kid that thinks he's Superman is still going to think he's Superman after he has been fined (forget warnings, they're right out the window). Yes, he's still going to think he's Superman when he is sitting in jail but at least the rest of society knows exactly where he is. 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barlow 933 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 . . . . and if they think the rules and laws don't apply to them, maybe they should stay in UK. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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