Barlow 915 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Banker said: Bit of a difference in sentence, In Jersey it’s an £ 800 fine for getting food & going to pub , in IOM stop for a sandwich 4 weeks in jail!! https://jerseyeveningpost.com Oh aye . . . https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2020/11/03/visitor-fined-59k-for-going-on-a-pub-crawl-instead-of-self-isolating/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,382 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Barlow said: Some kid that thinks he's Superman is still going to think he's Superman after he has been fined (forget warnings, they're right out the window). Yes, he's still going to think he's Superman when he is sitting in jail but at least the rest of society knows exactly where he is. What’s Superman got to do with sitting on a sofa with girlfriend, buying a sandwich or seeking refuge at a homeless shelter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,382 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Barlow said: Oh aye . . . https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2020/11/03/visitor-fined-59k-for-going-on-a-pub-crawl-instead-of-self-isolating/ Still a fine you idiots & higher than the other Guernsey one as the former went to several pubs as opposed to one!! No immediate jail term like here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barlow 915 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Banker said: What’s Superman got to do with sitting on a sofa with girlfriend, buying a sandwich or seeking refuge at a homeless shelter? All of them. It's about attitude. You don't have to wear your underpants outside your trousers to think you are Superman. Aye, all of those. Edited November 3, 2020 by Barlow 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barlow 915 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Banker said: Still a fine you idiots & higher than the other Guernsey one as the former went to several pubs as opposed to one!! No immediate jail term like here Look at the number of people he put at risk. All those pubs....all those pubs eh. Maybe he should have been given 2 weeks straight away. Like the good ol' Isle of Man Edited November 3, 2020 by Barlow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,382 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barlow said: Look at the number of people he put at risk. All those pubs....all those pubs eh. Maybe he should have been given 2 weeks straight away. Like the good ol' Isle of Man Stop being such an idiot and stuck to waving your Howie flags or is it a Trump one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barlow 915 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Banker said: Stop being such an idiot and stuck to waving your Howie flags or is it a Trump one Fining isn't effective. Not in a pandemic. Just read what this guy did. He demonstrated why he needed to be jailed. You might be different. And that Sultan fella too. But the laws aren't made for just you. They are made for everybody. Jail is what you get. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zarley 410 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Banker said: Still a fine you idiots & higher than the other Guernsey one as the former went to several pubs as opposed to one!! No immediate jail term like here Are people not reading the article? He's in jail to at least 15 weeks. He can reduce his sentence a bit if he manages to pay some of the fine, which is unlikely as he's on UK incapacity benefit. The very first paragraph: Quote A MAN who arrived from a red-category area and went on a pub crawl instead of self-isolating has been sent to prison for up to 15 weeks after being unable to pay a £5,900 fine. Emphasis mine. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotty 495 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: So they’re now checking inside your own house where you sit? That’s totally fucked up. We are truly North Korea. Could have been dealt with with a warning / fine / penalty but fucking prison for sitting on your own sofa? That is literally insane. You just don’t get it. That is worrying 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,454 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Scotty said: You just don’t get it. That is worrying Ok I’ll bite just out of interest. So in what way has sending this man automatically to prison for 4 weeks (and destroying his ability to earn a good income and his career prospects for the rest of his life) been effective in abating the spread of COvID-19 in the IOM over issuing him with a warning, a chunky fine, or some other sort of civil penalty? Edited November 3, 2020 by thesultanofsheight 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,382 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Zarley said: Are people not reading the article? He's in jail to at least 15 weeks. He can reduce his sentence a bit if he manages to pay some of the fine, which is unlikely as he's on UK incapacity benefit. The very first paragraph: Emphasis mine. That was multiple offenses, this is the one I posted . Went to pub , got £800 fine compared to the way we jail for buying a sandwich with face masks on or someone going to a shelter. There’s no comparison, our lot are just jail crazy and I would expect some investigation or damages claims when all this is over https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2020/11/03/tourist-risks-a-jail-sentence-after-failing-to-self-isolate/ Edited November 3, 2020 by Banker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zarley 410 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 57 minutes ago, Banker said: The policy doesn’t get results unless you think locking up people for mount breaches, costing the tax payer thousands for jail and massive negative PR is a result? It will cost the taxpayer many more thousands if some non-isolating bozo introduces covid back into the community and we don't find out until it's already spread exponentially. A stay in Noble's ICU is far more costly than a stay at the Jurby Hilton. Not to mention the economic cost of the lockdown that community spread would no doubt bring. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zarley 410 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Banker said: That was multiple offenses, this is the one I posted . Went to pub , got £800 fine compared to the way we jail for buying a sandwich with face masks on or someone going to a shelter. There’s no comparison, our lot are just jail crazy and I would expect some investigation or damages claims when all this is over https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2020/11/03/tourist-risks-a-jail-sentence-after-failing-to-self-isolate/ Mea culpa. I didn't realise it was a different article. However... That article is four hours old. He has to pay the fine immediately - like the first guy - and like the first guy, it doesn't sound like he can pay either. So he's likely going down too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotty 495 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: Ok I’ll bite just out of interest. So in what way has sending this man automatically to prison for 4 weeks (and destroying his ability to earn a good income and his career prospects for the rest of his life) been effective in abating the spread of COvID-19 in the IOM over issuing him with a warning, a chunky fine, or some other sort of civil penalty? He blatantly broke the rules, either through stupidity or Just plain thinking he knew better. He must have read the rules he signed up to. Deserves what he got. He actually got off light. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,454 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Scotty said: He blatantly broke the rules, either through stupidity or Just plain thinking he knew better. He must have read the rules he signed up to. Deserves what he got. He actually got off light. You haven’t answered my question. In what way has sending this man automatically to prison for 4 weeks (and destroying his ability to earn a good income and his career prospects for the rest of his life) specifically been effective in abating the spread of COvID-19 in the IOM in contrast to issuing him with a warning, a chunky fine, or some other sort of civil penalty? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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