Augustus 393 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=59206&headline=Police welcome sentences for drugs gang§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2020 Here's a collection of ugly mugs with one extremely unwise former prison guard in their midst. Some interesting names, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF 6,050 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Augustus said: http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=59206&headline=Police welcome sentences for drugs gang§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2020 Here's a collection of ugly mugs with one extremely unwise former prison guard in their midst. Some interesting names, too. there must be some correlation between looks and brains ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doc.fixit 3,030 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 The Victorians believed that the shape of a person's head indicated his/her criminal intent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gladys 8,804 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Called phrenology, I think. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Wright 8,916 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Called phrenology, I think. Oooh, feel your bumps, Missus? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gladys 8,804 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, John Wright said: Oooh, feel your bumps, Missus? My Dad used to say someone needs their bumps feeling, meaning they were daft or had made a rash decision. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Wright 8,916 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Gladys said: My Dad used to say someone needs their bumps feeling, meaning they were daft or had made a rash decision. It derives from phrenology Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doc.fixit 3,030 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I often wonder if there is indeed any truth in a person's facial features indicating their personality or intelligence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kopek 2,234 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Not just features, accent? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
finlo 5,123 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: I often wonder if there is indeed any truth in a person's facial features indicating their personality or intelligence. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gladys 8,804 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, John Wright said: It derives from phrenology I know! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kopek 2,234 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 What is the difference between sub judice and anonymity until guilty? The prosecution case in both must be settled before it becomes public? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kopek 2,234 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Re the picture, if the American depression of the 30's, high forehead and protruding lower jaw dietary deformities were the deciding factor, there would be more prisoners that free citizens in the US. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gladys 8,804 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Kopek said: What is the difference between sub judice and anonymity until guilty? The prosecution case in both must be settled before it becomes public? Sub judice means the case is under judicial review, (literal translation "under justice") that is all and applies to all proceedings. The rules around a matter being sub judice are intended to prevent prejudice in the decision, most usually of a jury, so that the facts of the case stand on their own merits without the influence of history, publicity or opinion. If prejudice is found it can cause a mistrial. But the name of the defendant is not withheld, nor is factual reporting of the proceedings prevented. Anonymity prevents the identification of the defendant, unless found guilty. The purpose is to avoid "no smoke without fire" type allegations if the defendant is found not guilty. Two completely different things but could operate at the same time - during a hearing the matter is sub judice so press comment is limited to factual reporting, not dishing the dirt, but if anonymity is ordered the name or other way of identifying the defendant cannot be released. There may be other limitations on public and press access. John may give a more legally accurate explanation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kopek 2,234 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Gladys said: John may give a more legally accurate explanation. I,m sure he will Gladys but it will be based on 'old' law/interpretation', not accounting for modern Facebook/MF comment. The argument is that, on one hand the defendant should be named to allow further accusations to be brought forward and on the other hand to dis-allow further comment as to not prejudice the current trial! That is contrary? Surely all trials should be 'sub judice' until the verdict or all should allow outside influence to allow for further charges, new information to the furtherence of that trial? This, of course, comes from the proposed sexual offences law proposals with regard to the defendants rights versus the ability to identify other accusations. ( I'm ambivalent ). It's a case of one rule for one situation being contrary to the other situation? ..............and, of course, mf v. facebook? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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