Climate protests

[Lagman 663]

"We're not being listened to" - says climate campaigner -

Possibly because people disagree with you?

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/were-not-being-listened-to-climate-campaigner/

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/climate-strike-to-take-place-outside-tynwald-this-afternoon/

"Campaigners will gather outside of Tynwald at 12:30 to call on government to implement a 2035 carbon neutrality date, halt plans to extract gas from the Island's seabed and 'de-carbonise' the economy."

Can someone explain to these children that natural gas isn't particularly bad for the environment and will be absolutely needed for countries to  transition to the greener energy they want. Without using natural gas as a go between they aren't going to get the things they want. Maybe someone could write it in crayon in very large letters for them.

Also about photo in the link - did more people than that attend the last one or was there really less than 20 people there?

[Neil Down 7,941]

6 minutes ago, Lagman said:

"We're not being listened to" - says climate campaigner -

Possibly because people disagree with you?

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/were-not-being-listened-to-climate-campaigner/

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/climate-strike-to-take-place-outside-tynwald-this-afternoon/

"Campaigners will gather outside of Tynwald at 12:30 to call on government to implement a 2035 carbon neutrality date, halt plans to extract gas from the Island's seabed and 'de-carbonise' the economy."

Can someone explain to these children that natural gas isn't particularly bad for the environment and will be absolutely needed for countries to  transition to the greener energy they want. Without using natural gas as a go between they aren't going to get the things they want. Maybe someone could write it in crayon in very large letters for them.

Also about photo in the link - did more people than that attend the last one or was there really less than 20 people there?

Could you maybe ask one of these "children" so show you how to post a link correctly...

[Whatnonsence 268]

They should be far more concerned about the increase in people employed by government, the waste of tax payers money on capital projects, the increasing cost of government pensions, these young people will pay the ultimate cost for the present and previous governments follies.

[Max Power 6,346]

They do realise that without affordable heating, people in Northern Europe's winter will die during any sudden transition to technology which is a bit iffy at the moment? If only life were as simple.

[WTF 5,930]

51 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said:

 these young people will pay the ultimate cost for the present and previous governments follies.

unless they move jurisdictions and let those that scuppered the ship sink with it.

Edited September 25, 2020 by WTF

[Whatnonsence 268]

22 minutes ago, WTF said:

unless they move jurisdictions and let those that scuppered the ship sink with it.

Absolutely, as we had to do in our youth having to move jurisdictions, however back in  the day our forefathers did not spend our inheritance because there wasn’t any.

[manx-person 143]

7 hours ago, Whatnonsence said:

They should be far more concerned about the increase in people employed by government, the waste of tax payers money on capital projects, the increasing cost of government pensions, these young people will pay the ultimate cost for the present and previous governments follies.

Should they? I'd say they have the right, in a free a democratic society, to be 'more concerned' about whatever they choose.

[Chris C 412]

8 hours ago, Whatnonsence said:

They should be far more concerned about the increase in people employed by government, the waste of tax payers money on capital projects, the increasing cost of government pensions, these young people will pay the ultimate cost for the present and previous governments follies.

Or perhaps they realise that you can't eat money?

[Kopek 2,091]

Bloody Students, young white girls, protesting about this, that and everything. All those old people there, they're not students, what's it got to do with them? 

[HeliX 2,240]

8 hours ago, Max Power said:

They do realise that without affordable heating, people in Northern Europe's winter will die during any sudden transition to technology which is a bit iffy at the moment? If only life were as simple.

Perhaps the UK Govt should stop pissing money into corporations strongly linked to Government ministers that then fail to deliver, and instead offset the increased cost of heating homes without burning natural resources.

[Chris C 412]

9 hours ago, Lagman said:

 

Can someone explain to these children that natural gas isn't particularly bad for the environment and will be absolutely needed for countries to  transition to the greener energy they want. Without using natural gas as a go between they aren't going to get the things they want. Maybe someone could write it in crayon in very large letters for them.

Well we produce almost 100% of our electricity from burning natural gas and have done for many, many years without any sign of transition whatsoever.

[pongo 4,335]

9 hours ago, Max Power said:

They do realise that without affordable heating, people in Northern Europe's winter will die during any sudden transition to technology which is a bit iffy at the moment? If only life were as simple.

 

32 minutes ago, HeliX said:

Perhaps the UK Govt should stop pissing money into corporations strongly linked to Government ministers that then fail to deliver, and instead offset the increased cost of heating homes without burning natural resources.

 

In Britain (where everyone on the IOM lives) 25% of electricity is already produced from renewable sources. And that number is rapidly increasing - whilst the cost in real terms is continually decreasing. It's a success story from any perspective.

[pongo 4,335]

I know people hate good news. Sorry.

[pongo 4,335]

The Conservatives have actually got a pretty good record on this lately. Probably purely from a business and political perspective. The green revolution is good business and sensible politics. By contrast  -  not that long ago Corbyn wanted the coal mines to be re-opened with govt support (up the workers and their right to do back breaking traditional jobs deep underground - and other dignity-of-labour bollocks).

Also - Mrs Thatcher (who shut down coal but for political not environmental reasons), a scientist by education, was one of the world's first leaders to make man-made climate change an international political issue. Telegraph readers who don't believe in man-made climate change hate that fact.

Edited September 25, 2020 by pongo

[Chris C 412]

2 hours ago, pongo said:

The Conservatives have actually got a pretty good record on this lately. Probably purely from a business and political perspective. The green revolution is good business and sensible politics. By contrast  -  not that long ago Corbyn wanted the coal mines to be re-opened with govt support (up the workers and their right to do back breaking traditional jobs deep underground - and other dignity-of-labour bollocks).

Also - Mrs Thatcher (who shut down coal but for political not environmental reasons), a scientist by education, was one of the world's first leaders to make man-made climate change an international political issue. Telegraph readers who don't believe in man-made climate change hate that fact.

The conservatives, having been in power one way or another for a decade have an appalling record on climate change in world terms. 

Jeremy Corbyn did not want the coal mines to re-open,  like so much else that's attributed to him, that is complete bollocks. 

Maggie Thatcher was a chemist by education and indeed was one of the first world leaders to mention climate change whilst simultaneously being in power for over a decade and doing next to fuck all about it.

If you are waiting for greedy self interested people to save the planet for us all, you'll be waiting a long time, and sadly time is not something we have a lot of in this respect.