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Is there a breakdown of how many of the additional crimes were committed by serving police officers?

And Juan Watterson SHK is against that. Wasn’t he Home Affairs before he got his wig? Tells you all you need to know about ehh we’ve not had regular inspections..

Well, why don’t you post my catalogue of catastrophe on here? Feel free, with my blessing. The public deserve to know. off you go then....

1 hour ago, John Wright said:

No.

1. They’re entitled to return here for visits.

2. Anyone sentenced to life gets a tariff imposed at sentencing of a minimum number of years to be served before they can apply for parole.

3. The only jurisdiction that can deal with parole for a lifer sentenced here is, surprise, Isle of Man.

4. That’s for the families of victims so they can make representations. Natural justice.

5. The prisoner is entitled to attend his or her parole hearing and make representations. Natural justice.

Its common sense that they have to come back as they approach parole. Also to allow family visits, especially currently.

If they don’t get parole they’ll be returned across.  Until they’re entitled to apply again.

If they do get a parole board to release on licence then there’ll be a slow process of day releases, weekend releases, under supervision,  and clearly that’s going to be here, and the new tags are part of the checks and balances.

 

5. The prisoner is entitled....poor lamb, I'm pretty sure that the person the prisoner imprisoned for life murdered was more entitled to not being murdered but hey, what do I know.

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

Very recent. Pleaded guilty on 8 September 2020. Commented upon on MF. In the ex cop, £60,000 & Rolex case thread.

An inspector was charged with serious offences in 2003/4 but there was insufficient evidence for the case to proceed at committal.

Around then, before the Sergeant’s aid abet benefit fraud case I’m referring to, Flinty said he knew of two command team as well. So above constable rank.

Thanks. My mistake- all the press reports Id seen regarding that case had referred to him as DC or PC, but I’ve just seen one that says Sgt. 

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14 hours ago, John Wright said:

Very recent. Pleaded guilty on 8 September 2020. Commented upon on MF. In the ex cop, £60,000 & Rolex case thread.

An inspector was charged with serious offences in 2003/4 but there was insufficient evidence for the case to proceed at committal.

Around then, before the Sergeant’s aid abet benefit fraud case I’m referring to, Flinty said he knew of two command team as well. So above constable rank.

They went on to higher things rather than committed the offences in high office

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3 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

Delighted to see the DHA has finally got around to some external security for the police. Seems they are getting a 2 for 1 deal and doing the fire service too. 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/emergency-services-to-be-scrutinised-by-uk-body/

Security, or scrutiny?

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On 10/19/2020 at 5:43 PM, yootalkin2me said:

5. The prisoner is entitled....poor lamb, I'm pretty sure that the person the prisoner imprisoned for life murdered washttps://www.judgments.im/content/J902.htm more entitled to not being murdered but hey, what do I know.

What, one wonders, has changed since the policy of transferring life sentence prisoners was confirmed, here:

https://www.judgments.im/content/J902.htm

https://www.judgments.im/content/J835.htm

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1 hour ago, joebean said:

What, one wonders, has changed since the policy of transferring life sentence prisoners was confirmed, here:

https://www.judgments.im/content/J902.htm

https://www.judgments.im/content/J835.htm

Maybe family quoting visiting rights in the wake of Covid if they can’t see their murdering offspring? 

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5 hours ago, joebean said:

What, one wonders, has changed since the policy of transferring life sentence prisoners was confirmed, here:

https://www.judgments.im/content/J902.htm

https://www.judgments.im/content/J835.htm

What makes you think anything in those judgments has changed in the propositions I set out above relevant to parole hearings when approaching the fixed minimum tariff of a life sentence

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14 hours ago, Derek Flint said:

Delighted to see the DHA has finally got around to some external scrutiny for the police. Seems they are getting a 2 for 1 deal and doing the fire service too. 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/emergency-services-to-be-scrutinised-by-uk-body/

 

 

Be interesting to see how things stack up, and also compare to UK forces in some aspects (do they do comparisons within the inspection?). Now all they have to do is let the Inspectorate speak to whoever they want to, instead of putting stooges/the regular Lycra gang/ass kissers in front of the microphone like the ‘Investors in People’ fiasco. 

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1 hour ago, manxst said:

Be interesting to see how things stack up, and also compare to UK forces in some aspects (do they do comparisons within the inspection?). Now all they have to do is let the Inspectorate speak to whoever they want to, instead of putting stooges/the regular Lycra gang/ass kissers in front of the microphone like the ‘Investors in People’ fiasco. 

I think the cops will come out pretty well in some areas, but the insularity is likely to show in others. An inspection is the very best road map to improvement and it is ridiculous that the DHA hasn’t been proactive with keeping on top of this at least every five years.

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I’d say rather different. They wouldn’t have dared have an inspection whilst one DF was in the hierarchy.

They needed to wait a reasonable time after he’d left and most of the damage was undone.

What better way of celebrating his departure off Island.

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