Derby Ward by-election

[Scotty 495]

1 minute ago, HeliX said:

Be better if they spent it on Government salaries and roundabouts?

If you're lucky enough to be well off enough to subsidise other people's housing that's a strange thing to complain about.

Not sure of your point there. We own our house and pay very high rates. That keeps the  rent of Counsel houses down. We pay for every single repair needed, unlike those we subsidise. Two very different sides to the coin.

[Capt_Mainwaring 114]

7 minutes ago, Scotty said:

No love lost between myself and TSOS, but he has a sense of humour.

By mocking someone like a schoolyard bully? I don't find that funny. And I've seen the results of that behaviour (by adults). Like I say, got nothing nice to say, don't. 

[HeliX 2,240]

1 minute ago, Scotty said:

Not sure of your point there. We own our house and pay very high rates. That keeps the  rent of Counsel houses down. We pay for every single repair needed, unlike those we subsidise. Two very different sides to the coin.

So do I, and I consider it a fortunate position given the cost of housing vs the minimum wage & cost of living these days.

[Scotty 495]

4 minutes ago, HeliX said:

Means testing would lower the cost of private renting?

In a way by getting rid of those taking the piss in counsel houses, while enjoying high incomes. Those houses then would be freed up for the people being fleeced in private rentals on lower incomes. The higher earning ex counsel house tenants could  then BUY a property , leavin* the greedy landlords with empty houses.  ( hopefully )

[HeliX 2,240]

2 minutes ago, Scotty said:

In a way by getting rid of those taking the piss in counsel houses, while enjoying high incomes. Those houses then would be freed up for the people being fleeced in private rentals on lower incomes. The higher earning ex counsel house tenants could  then BUY a property , leavin* the greedy landlords with empty houses.  ( hopefully )

That'd be nice, but I'd be surprised if it worked. I don't think there are legions of wealthy people in council houses waiting to buy their own houses if we introduced means testing.

[Scotty 495]

Just now, HeliX said:

That'd be nice, but I'd be surprised if it worked. I don't think there are legions of wealthy people in council houses waiting to buy their own houses if we introduced means testing.

They would have to, or pay private rent.

[HeliX 2,240]

1 minute ago, Scotty said:

They would have to, or pay private rent.

But how many are there likely to be on an island this size is more what I'm getting at. I don't think it would have a significant effect on the housing situation. There needs to be more regulation of private rents - the new landlord bill is a start.

[the stinking enigma 11,119]

7 hours ago, Scotty said:

Not sure of your point there. We own our house and pay very high rates. That keeps the  rent of Counsel houses down. We pay for every single repair needed, unlike those we subsidise. Two very different sides to the coin.

Absolute horseshit.

[the stinking enigma 11,119]

The solution to people paying exorbitant private rents is to put council rents up so that nobody feels they are missing out? Fuck this shit I need a drink.

[thesultanofsheight 9,453]

7 hours ago, Capt_Mainwaring said:

By mocking someone like a schoolyard bully? I don't find that funny. And I've seen the results of that behaviour (by adults). Like I say, got nothing nice to say, don't. 

I wasn’t mocking anyone. I was just pointing out that in that picture they do look like the before and after pictures of some weight loss programme. 

Edited October 16, 2020 by thesultanofsheight

[The Dog's Dangly Bits 1,709]

8 hours ago, Scotty said:

In a way by getting rid of those taking the piss in counsel houses, while enjoying high incomes. Those houses then would be freed up for the people being fleeced in private rentals on lower incomes. The higher earning ex counsel house tenants could  then BUY a property , leavin* the greedy landlords with empty houses.  ( hopefully )

Why is there this inbuilt assumption landlords are greedy?

Similar to this bizarre assumption/obsession that everyone should own a property rather than rent one.

It's odd.

[Shake me up Judy 5,113]

No disrespect to any of the candidates but is anything more utterly pointless than a Douglas Borough Council election ? It's about as important as the weekly raffle at the Legion Club. Meaningful electoral politics in Douglas died of shame a very long time ago. There's been a policy and decision making stalemate for years and the Council has been controlled by a small clique of operators and blowhards. It's more a social club than a council with the biggest argument being over the sandwiches at the next buffet.

National politics isn't much better.     

[thesultanofsheight 9,453]

5 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said:

No disrespect to any of the candidates but is anything more utterly pointless than a Douglas Borough Council election ? It's about as important as the weekly raffle at the Legion Club. Meaningful electoral politics in Douglas died of shame a very long time ago. There's been a policy and decision making stalemate for years and the Council has been controlled by a small clique of operators and blowhards. It's more a social club than a council with the biggest argument being over the sandwiches at the next buffet.

National politics isn't much better.     

Agree voter turnout was less than 20% so there’s little to cheer about. 

[Neil Down 7,940]

11 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Shame Watson got in. He sounds like a hapless fool. 

You should get on well with him then... 

[Neil Down 7,940]

9 hours ago, HeliX said:

The economy in general. Cheaper rents = more people able to spend money in the economy or buy houses.

Amazon and ebay are not good for the local economy...