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3 minutes ago, Gladys said:

What does that mean for the testing facility?

She never really said what capacity she was employed in. The testing facility AFAIK is her standalone business.

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1 minute ago, piebaps said:

She never really said what capacity she was employed in. The testing facility AFAIK is her standalone business.

No it's not - this is her standalone business.  What she did was help set up the Covid testing facility based on a DNA analyser that DEFA had had sitting around for nearly a decade, doing nothing and then ran it, trained the existing microbiology staff to operate it, set up the correct protocols for running it and sourced the chemicals and so on needed to operate it (this is harder than you would think with current demand).

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7 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

No it's not - this is her standalone business.  What she did was help set up the Covid testing facility based on a DNA analyser that DEFA had had sitting around for nearly a decade, doing nothing and then ran it, trained the existing microbiology staff to operate it, set up the correct protocols for running it and sourced the chemicals and so on needed to operate it (this is harder than you would think with current demand).

I think you're spot on as I recall seeing a IoM Gov press release calling the test centre a joint venture

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12 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

No it's not - this is her standalone business.  What she did was help set up the Covid testing facility based on a DNA analyser that DEFA had had sitting around for nearly a decade, doing nothing and then ran it, trained the existing microbiology staff to operate it, set up the correct protocols for running it and sourced the chemicals and so on needed to operate it (this is harder than you would think with current demand).

The govt's attitude seems to be - "If it's up and running, everyone trained, then there's no need to listen to her."

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6 minutes ago, Declan said:

The govt's attitude seems to be - "If it's up and running, everyone trained, then there's no need to listen to her."

good business decision from independent contractors actually, as when it inevitably starts to fall apart you could probably name your price to return and fix it

I am absolutely categorically not saying that is the intent here

But it'd serve some small minded people right if it occurred

The only problem is those people wouldn't suffer - just the tax payer

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15 minutes ago, Declan said:

The govt's attitude seems to be - "If it's up and running, everyone trained, then there's no need to listen to her."

Well it's exactly what you would expect from them - and of course incredibly short-sighted as the science develops all the time.  She still hopes to be involved:

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Of course one thing this has proved is that the politicians weren't telling the truth when they said she wasn't an employee, which tells you just how much they are being misinformed themselves (not that some of them seem to care).

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3 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Of course one thing this has proved is that the politicians weren't telling the truth when they said she wasn't an employee, which tells you just how much they are being misinformed themselves (not that some of them seem to care).

I see it as the politicians being unable to deviate from speaking in absolutes and always wanting to be right

In the scheme of things it's such a nothing point whether she's directly employed or contract or bank staff or whatever - bottom line is she was working with the health dept and being paid by IOM Gov so that's a dead easy general press conference answer - the contractual nuances are only important if you're wanting to be pricks about it all

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8 minutes ago, Rhumsaa said:

In the scheme of things it's such a nothing point whether she's directly employed or contract or bank staff or whatever - bottom line is she was working with the health dept and being paid by IOM Gov so that's a dead easy general press conference answer - the contractual nuances are only important if you're wanting to be pricks about it all

Oh quite - that's why I relegated it to a footnote earlier.  But the telling point was that her employment status, in their eyes, justified her being excluded from any input into policy.  Who you were, rather than what you had to offer was the important thing.

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