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Ouch, this thread is back. Not unexpected I suppose. 

Have you never heard the term whistle-blowing? Dr G. tried every avenue and was well aware of what was at risk on her island. She isn't doing this for publicity, she's been offered far better gigs tha

With respect, you are. Without @rachomics on island PCR testing for covid would not have happened when it did, if at all. Of course, Rizwan Khan and Steve Doyle were vital too - sorry don’t know Dr Sh

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22 hours ago, Rhumsaa said:

methinks thou doth protest too much

Nope, just me wondering how much of this is indexed by Google. If it stays, it stays. I'm not in the habit of telling anything less than the truth (for better or worse, thank my aspie side for that) so while I might be overly truthful there's not much I can do about people who disbelieve it. 

6 hours ago, Sheldon said:

We refute Dr Glover's claims

All other contentions from both parties aside, I find this particular assertion from Ashford somewhat difficult to believe.

’I have granted the relevant officers who need to be involved in the timeline a week off over Easter. They have been doing in some cases 17-hour days, seven days a week without a break for 12 months'

It's because I said I had been working 100 hours per week between DHSC and my own company, at a point where the company was in exponential growth. In DA's world that means it must be beaten in order to state the special nature of DHSC staff compared to the rest of us plebs.

120 hour weeks are pretty much unsustainable for anyone for more than a month, even for workaholics like me, so it stinks of DA being told a few porky pies and beliving it. All I wanted when I resigned was to get a 60-70 hour week back. Like a "normal" start-up founder.

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22 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Agreed. But your argument would be more convincing if you had not contributed to this thread with your own words, thus lending it more legitimacy 

I'm entitled to respond to a thread with my name in it. What's your name? Could we name a thread after you?

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Just now, rachomics said:

Huh? I don't understand. What are my own words? You can hear three hours of them on the Tynwald website. 

Not all three hours are your words but that’s bye the bye. (by? I don’t know)

I’m talking about this thread. Maybe a dignified silence on here (and Twitter) would have served you better and given you less angst.


As we know there are two sides to every story. HQ and DA have been subject to much vilification on here and have chosen not to respond in this forum and have just used official channels. Professional you may call it.

Please anyone do not suggest that I or anyone else on here are nom de plumes for either of those two. It gets tiresome.

 

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14 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Not all three hours are your words but that’s bye the bye. (by? I don’t know)

I’m talking about this thread. Maybe a dignified silence on here (and Twitter) would have served you better and given you less angst.


As we know there are two sides to every story. HQ and DA have been subject to much vilification on here and have chosen not to respond in this forum and have just used official channels. Professional you may call it.

Please anyone do not suggest that I or anyone else on here are nom de plumes for either of those two. It gets tiresome.

 

Whatever you say Davy boy!

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16 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Not all three hours are your words but that’s bye the bye. (by? I don’t know)

I’m talking about this thread. Maybe a dignified silence on here (and Twitter) would have served you better and given you less angst.


As we know there are two sides to every story. HQ and DA have been subject to much vilification on here and have chosen not to respond in this forum and have just used official channels. Professional you may call it.

Please anyone do not suggest that I or anyone else on here are nom de plumes for either of those two. It gets tiresome.

 

How would you know neither of them frequent here?

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7 hours ago, Sheldon said:

We refute Dr Glover's claims

All other contentions from both parties aside, I find this particular assertion from Ashford somewhat difficult to believe.

’I have granted the relevant officers who need to be involved in the timeline a week off over Easter. They have been doing in some cases 17-hour days, seven days a week without a break for 12 months'

One of the many irritating things about modern politics/journalism is that people insist on using 'refute' when they actually mean 'deny'.   Still I'm sure that the refutation will come along once those Stakhanovite 'officers' return to their desks.  What terribly bad timing for David to have given them their first hours off at this crucial time. 

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36 minutes ago, rachomics said:

I'm entitled to respond to a thread with my name in it. What's your name? Could we name a thread after you?

try Hugh Janus

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40 minutes ago, rachomics said:

Nope, just me wondering how much of this is indexed by Google. If it stays, it stays. I'm not in the habit of telling anything less than the truth (for better or worse, thank my aspie side for that) so while I might be overly truthful there's not much I can do about people who disbelieve it. 

It's because I said I had been working 100 hours per week between DHSC and my own company, at a point where the company was in exponential growth. In DA's world that means it must be beaten in order to state the special nature of DHSC staff compared to the rest of us plebs.

120 hour weeks are pretty much unsustainable for anyone for more than a month, even for workaholics like me, so it stinks of DA being told a few porky pies and beliving it. All I wanted when I resigned was to get a 60-70 hour week back. Like a "normal" start-up founder.

 

38 minutes ago, rachomics said:

I'm entitled to respond to a thread with my name in it. What's your name? Could we name a thread after you?

@rachomics I had hoped you would take the hint. Please tone down content and allegations.

Truth isn’t absolute in situations like this. It’s often a matter of perspective. And that’s often dependent on context, where you are, and your view and feelings.

There once was a police recruitment advert on tv. Young black man runs at an elderly lady and she falls to the ground. Vicious thug assaulting someone? Camera pans out and we see the same scene from a different angle. A crate is falling from a crane above the old woman’s head, young black man colliding with old lady and her falling to ground means crate misses her. Hero? 

Actually he could still be a thug,  fortuitously saving her life whilst trying to rob her. Don’t know until all the evidence is heard and the case determined.

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28 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

I'd be wary of engaging with this weasel if i were you 

Not at all. We may have our differences but by and large I find Dr Glover to be pretty straight in what she says even if I may disagree with her.

There are far more weasely people on here.

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31 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Not at all. We may have our differences but by and large I find Dr Glover to be pretty straight in what she says even if I may disagree with her.

There are far more weasely people on here.

I dont get you , I'm not impressed with your manner and justification of 'voice of reason' . It would seem like bordering on obsession to give a alternative view . Yes for sure we all need the 'other side' but hey , can you not just be a normal human for once . I dont have a go at anyone on here as realise it takes all sorts , especially on a forum , and theres a few on here I wouldnt choose to sit down with on a night out but far more that I would be glad to. There , off my chest and hope you sit back for a time and take stock .

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1 hour ago, rachomics said:

Nope, just me wondering how much of this is indexed by Google. If it stays, it stays. I'm not in the habit of telling anything less than the truth (for better or worse, thank my aspie side for that) so while I might be overly truthful there's not much I can do about people who disbelieve it. 

I don’t mean this to sound disrespectful, but every time you comment on this thread, you’re inadvertently bumping the content up, effectively keeping it trending and allowing people to engage further. I understand it’s a bit of a double edged sword in the sense you want to dismiss any wrong statements made by posters but If we look towards the future then any pointless ramblings from largely anonymous forum members aren’t going to be taken that seriously by anyone, certainly not as facts, but your posts/replies will be taken as fact. People want to engage and support you through this journey (Myself included) but as you’ve said earlier sometimes those who are well intentioned aren’t actually helping matters. 

John Wright has already said there will be no vote by members to have this thread or posts deleted, so the next best thing is to vote with our feet. If all your supporters stop posting in here it will soon disappear into the black hole of the web, well certainly until there is any real developments within this case anyway.

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