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1 hour ago, Fluffy123 said:

Just saw on Gef - apparently Ashey confirmed Glover has been appointed to the new EAG 

Olive branch....?

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7 minutes ago, finlo said:

Attempt at gagging more like!

she would have had to have accepted it and I believe she has said multiple times she isn't interested in the financial side just wants to assist so I assume she's accepted in order to help the IOM

 

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If the EAG had been set up when it was requested by Tynwald, RG could have joined it then and been able to put her views across in a forum designed for that very purpose.  It may have avoided all the shenanigans since. 

Do we know why it wasn't set up when promised? 

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Just now, Gladys said:

If the EAG had been set up when it was requested by Tynwald, RG could have joined it then and been able to put her views across in a forum designed for that very purpose.  It may have avoided all the shenanigans since. 

Do we know why it wasn't set up when promised? 

Wasn’t set up because Ashie ignored Tynwald until he could no longer!!

Looks like a few others may be joining 

https://gef.im/2021/05/15/dr-glover-to-join-emergency-advisory-group/

 

 

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1 minute ago, Pipsqueak said:

it shows she must have told the truth with the evidence given to PAC then , government wouldn't want to be appointing known  liars would they.??

interesting logic progression

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15 minutes ago, Rhumsaa said:

interesting logic progression

Inversely, it may not be far off.  Rather accepting what was said as truth, perhaps they were satisfied that there were no lies.  Slight difference.  

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41 minutes ago, Pipsqueak said:

it shows she must have told the truth with the evidence given to PAC then , government wouldn't want to be appointing known  liars would they.??

Perhaps it’s a case of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer?

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44 minutes ago, Pipsqueak said:

it shows she must have told the truth with the evidence given to PAC then , government wouldn't want to be appointing known  liars would they.??

 

42 minutes ago, Rhumsaa said:

interesting logic progression

 

23 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Inversely, it may not be far off.  Rather accepting what was said as truth, perhaps they were satisfied that there were no lies.  Slight difference.  

 

1 minute ago, Annoymouse said:

Perhaps it’s a case of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer?

Who thinks that Government will actually listen to EAG?

Will the minutes or a summary ever be published?

It was open by self referral/application.

There'll be an Official Secrets sign up. That’ll gag RG.

Who has won?

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31 minutes ago, John Wright said:

1. Who thinks that Government will actually listen to EAG?

2. Will the minutes or a summary ever be published?

3. It was open by self referral/application.

4. There'll be an Official Secrets sign up. That’ll gag RG.

5. Who has won?

1. At interview I was clear that if they had really wanted to listen to experts then the EAG would have been created 12 months ago. I gave them both barrels and they still appointed me. 

2. The minutes of the EAG are going to be published, so you'll be able to see what was recommended if CoMIN decide to do something else. That's what's in the terms of reference Tynwald approved earlier this year.

3. It was indeed. Did you apply?

4. Not as far as I'm aware but I held a UK gov security clearance for many years so regardless of what people may think, I know where the boundaries lie.

5. Could you imagine the bad press for the Government if they hadn't appointed me? That explains why DA was so keen to tell everyone during his PAC evidence that I had been appointed...which happened to be before *I* had been told that I'd been appointed. I didn't realise it was public (other than DA's PAC evidence) until a friend showed me on her phone earlier today. We were asked to keep it confidential until Tynwald. 

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1 hour ago, Pipsqueak said:

it shows she must have told the truth with the evidence given to PAC then , government wouldn't want to be appointing known  liars would they.??

Allan Bell "knowingly misled Tynwald" and then went on to be CM...

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30 minutes ago, gymbabe said:

@rachomics, I feel an awful lot more confident, ‘going forward’, with you as part of the EAG rather than without. 

Hopefully, with the conditions set that you mention, the new CoMin will listen! Good luck.

Agreed.

And Chelsea has just been beaten in the FA Final by the mighty Foxes. My afternoon is getting better and better.  

Am now waiting for the trifecta of DA/HE's resignations.

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47 minutes ago, gymbabe said:

@rachomics, I feel an awful lot more confident, ‘going forward’, with you as part of the EAG rather than without. 

Hopefully, with the conditions set that you mention, the new CoMin will listen! Good luck.

I am very hopeful for the post-election future provided that the expected "regime change" (i.e. no HQ, no DA) occurs within CoMIN come September. 

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